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Dealing with an internal ScriptKiddie



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We've been dealing with a credit card number scraping problem on our website for a couple of months.



I have evidence which points to a co-worker being the culprit.



The evidence is strong, but circumstantial, not direct.



How do I handle the situation?



How do I present this to my boss?



Because I previously alluded to this suspicion, only for her to shrug it off at that time. She thinks that if I set up the security protocols good enough, then it doesn't matter that we have a thief working in the office.



Edit: I am not his boss, therefore do not have the authority to take action other than informing, but I am the SysAdmin and have the, albeit circumstantial, evidence.










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    Paragraphs are your friend. So are summations. That's a dense read.

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    3 hours ago











  • Perhaps you should consider going to her boss, on the grounds that if she is using the same password everywhere then she does not understand the issues... At the very least ScriptBaby should get moved to another department... I would also suggest that you and one trusted other are the only ones to have the admin password... I would not consider your boss to the one...

    – Solar Mike
    3 hours ago











  • Welcome new user; while this is perhaps on topic, and a fun luvin' question - it si Simply Too Long. I would encourage you to just edit it.

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    2 hours ago











  • @danFbach - I put in a suggested "short version" for you. Do as you wish with it. Or, just leave them both.

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    2 hours ago






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    What country is this in? Does the suspect in question have an at-will contract? Seems like this is not only grounds for instant termination, but also likely involvement of the police.

    – binarymax
    2 hours ago
















2















Shorter version:



We've been dealing with a credit card number scraping problem on our website for a couple of months.



I have evidence which points to a co-worker being the culprit.



The evidence is strong, but circumstantial, not direct.



How do I handle the situation?



How do I present this to my boss?



Because I previously alluded to this suspicion, only for her to shrug it off at that time. She thinks that if I set up the security protocols good enough, then it doesn't matter that we have a thief working in the office.



Edit: I am not his boss, therefore do not have the authority to take action other than informing, but I am the SysAdmin and have the, albeit circumstantial, evidence.










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  • 1





    Paragraphs are your friend. So are summations. That's a dense read.

    – Dark Matter
    3 hours ago











  • Perhaps you should consider going to her boss, on the grounds that if she is using the same password everywhere then she does not understand the issues... At the very least ScriptBaby should get moved to another department... I would also suggest that you and one trusted other are the only ones to have the admin password... I would not consider your boss to the one...

    – Solar Mike
    3 hours ago











  • Welcome new user; while this is perhaps on topic, and a fun luvin' question - it si Simply Too Long. I would encourage you to just edit it.

    – Fattie
    2 hours ago











  • @danFbach - I put in a suggested "short version" for you. Do as you wish with it. Or, just leave them both.

    – Fattie
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    What country is this in? Does the suspect in question have an at-will contract? Seems like this is not only grounds for instant termination, but also likely involvement of the police.

    – binarymax
    2 hours ago














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2








2








Shorter version:



We've been dealing with a credit card number scraping problem on our website for a couple of months.



I have evidence which points to a co-worker being the culprit.



The evidence is strong, but circumstantial, not direct.



How do I handle the situation?



How do I present this to my boss?



Because I previously alluded to this suspicion, only for her to shrug it off at that time. She thinks that if I set up the security protocols good enough, then it doesn't matter that we have a thief working in the office.



Edit: I am not his boss, therefore do not have the authority to take action other than informing, but I am the SysAdmin and have the, albeit circumstantial, evidence.










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Shorter version:



We've been dealing with a credit card number scraping problem on our website for a couple of months.



I have evidence which points to a co-worker being the culprit.



The evidence is strong, but circumstantial, not direct.



How do I handle the situation?



How do I present this to my boss?



Because I previously alluded to this suspicion, only for her to shrug it off at that time. She thinks that if I set up the security protocols good enough, then it doesn't matter that we have a thief working in the office.



Edit: I am not his boss, therefore do not have the authority to take action other than informing, but I am the SysAdmin and have the, albeit circumstantial, evidence.







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  • 1





    Paragraphs are your friend. So are summations. That's a dense read.

    – Dark Matter
    3 hours ago











  • Perhaps you should consider going to her boss, on the grounds that if she is using the same password everywhere then she does not understand the issues... At the very least ScriptBaby should get moved to another department... I would also suggest that you and one trusted other are the only ones to have the admin password... I would not consider your boss to the one...

    – Solar Mike
    3 hours ago











  • Welcome new user; while this is perhaps on topic, and a fun luvin' question - it si Simply Too Long. I would encourage you to just edit it.

    – Fattie
    2 hours ago











  • @danFbach - I put in a suggested "short version" for you. Do as you wish with it. Or, just leave them both.

    – Fattie
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    What country is this in? Does the suspect in question have an at-will contract? Seems like this is not only grounds for instant termination, but also likely involvement of the police.

    – binarymax
    2 hours ago














  • 1





    Paragraphs are your friend. So are summations. That's a dense read.

    – Dark Matter
    3 hours ago











  • Perhaps you should consider going to her boss, on the grounds that if she is using the same password everywhere then she does not understand the issues... At the very least ScriptBaby should get moved to another department... I would also suggest that you and one trusted other are the only ones to have the admin password... I would not consider your boss to the one...

    – Solar Mike
    3 hours ago











  • Welcome new user; while this is perhaps on topic, and a fun luvin' question - it si Simply Too Long. I would encourage you to just edit it.

    – Fattie
    2 hours ago











  • @danFbach - I put in a suggested "short version" for you. Do as you wish with it. Or, just leave them both.

    – Fattie
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    What country is this in? Does the suspect in question have an at-will contract? Seems like this is not only grounds for instant termination, but also likely involvement of the police.

    – binarymax
    2 hours ago








1




1





Paragraphs are your friend. So are summations. That's a dense read.

– Dark Matter
3 hours ago





Paragraphs are your friend. So are summations. That's a dense read.

– Dark Matter
3 hours ago













Perhaps you should consider going to her boss, on the grounds that if she is using the same password everywhere then she does not understand the issues... At the very least ScriptBaby should get moved to another department... I would also suggest that you and one trusted other are the only ones to have the admin password... I would not consider your boss to the one...

– Solar Mike
3 hours ago





Perhaps you should consider going to her boss, on the grounds that if she is using the same password everywhere then she does not understand the issues... At the very least ScriptBaby should get moved to another department... I would also suggest that you and one trusted other are the only ones to have the admin password... I would not consider your boss to the one...

– Solar Mike
3 hours ago













Welcome new user; while this is perhaps on topic, and a fun luvin' question - it si Simply Too Long. I would encourage you to just edit it.

– Fattie
2 hours ago





Welcome new user; while this is perhaps on topic, and a fun luvin' question - it si Simply Too Long. I would encourage you to just edit it.

– Fattie
2 hours ago













@danFbach - I put in a suggested "short version" for you. Do as you wish with it. Or, just leave them both.

– Fattie
2 hours ago





@danFbach - I put in a suggested "short version" for you. Do as you wish with it. Or, just leave them both.

– Fattie
2 hours ago




1




1





What country is this in? Does the suspect in question have an at-will contract? Seems like this is not only grounds for instant termination, but also likely involvement of the police.

– binarymax
2 hours ago





What country is this in? Does the suspect in question have an at-will contract? Seems like this is not only grounds for instant termination, but also likely involvement of the police.

– binarymax
2 hours ago










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You go to your boss and say, in this order:




  • I have locked everything down so that an attack like that will not happen again

  • Insider attacks are always harder to defend against. For example they might take advantage of knowing some of us use the same passwords for several things. Practices that are perfectly safe against outsider attacks can leave us vulnerable to insider attacks

  • If you want to investigate the source of the attacks, I have quite a lot of data gathered already and can look into it further if it's important

  • I am personally convinced precisely who it was, though I couldn't prove it in a court of law. Let me know if that's something you want to pursue.


These are the things that matter to the boss. The direction of the conversation after that is up to the boss, not you.



The reason for this order is so that the boss can wander on a tangent or end the conversation at any time and the most important stuff was still covered. So after the first sentence, the boss may just say "good job, thanks, bye now" and you at least led with your accomplishment. After the second sentence you have mentioned that this wasn't a general failing to protect from strangers, but at most a minor flaw in your preparedness, and planted a seed about just who it is that reuses their passwords like that. The last two sentences have specific prompts for the boss to tell you things because if you've been allowed to say this many sentences, you're not getting shrugged off and can ask for authority to investigate and report your findings.






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  • Yeah, that is pretty much the opinion I've come too as well. However, after having been shrugged off so many times, I feel like the street corner guy with the cardboard sign saying "The End Is Near..." Thank you Kate, Appreciate the reassurance.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago



















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You go to your boss, tell them everything you have, and the boss makes their decision.



There is no "innocent until proven guilty" here unless your boss wants to take the scriptskiddy to court and then to jail. The boss has in my opinion no choice other than firing the kid.






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  • Thanks, I'm of a similar opinion. Though, firing is not my choice to make. And lacking true "Digital Fingerprints," I do hold some reservations about making my case.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago



















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The kid is the minor of the problems your company has. The kid can easily be dealt with. The boss shrugging it off is the more major liability here.



Your company is dealing with credit cards. Dealing with credit cards comes with a whole list of regulations. Which includes promptly dealing with security issues. Your company probably does not want the credit card companies refusing to do business with you.



If your boss is shrugging it off, you go to her boss.






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  • yes, I am aware of PCI regulations. I'm also aware that credit card scraping happens everywhere, from fortune 500 to mom & pop shops. We follow regulations and our set up is quite secure - My superiors just didn't believe an attack could come from within which is why they resisted sec protocol changes. Finally this week, I chose to disobey and enact them. I caught some grief, but they're still in place.

    – danFbach
    1 hour ago











  • TBH it sounds like the setup of the company you describe is a shambles. When you say "Even Petco has been attacked!" that is because they made mistakes within a mature, professional setup. In contrast, it sounds like this current company is a dumpster fire. You should go work somewhere better. Get more money, too!

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago













  • In terms of Abigail's answer. The credit card companies are: whores. There's no other word. If you check "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" in a dictionary, you get a photo of Credit Card Companies. If you buy one of those "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" motivational meme posters, it has a photo of Credit Card Companies. So, you can't look to them for quality standards.

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    1 hour ago













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You go to your boss and say, in this order:




  • I have locked everything down so that an attack like that will not happen again

  • Insider attacks are always harder to defend against. For example they might take advantage of knowing some of us use the same passwords for several things. Practices that are perfectly safe against outsider attacks can leave us vulnerable to insider attacks

  • If you want to investigate the source of the attacks, I have quite a lot of data gathered already and can look into it further if it's important

  • I am personally convinced precisely who it was, though I couldn't prove it in a court of law. Let me know if that's something you want to pursue.


These are the things that matter to the boss. The direction of the conversation after that is up to the boss, not you.



The reason for this order is so that the boss can wander on a tangent or end the conversation at any time and the most important stuff was still covered. So after the first sentence, the boss may just say "good job, thanks, bye now" and you at least led with your accomplishment. After the second sentence you have mentioned that this wasn't a general failing to protect from strangers, but at most a minor flaw in your preparedness, and planted a seed about just who it is that reuses their passwords like that. The last two sentences have specific prompts for the boss to tell you things because if you've been allowed to say this many sentences, you're not getting shrugged off and can ask for authority to investigate and report your findings.






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  • Yeah, that is pretty much the opinion I've come too as well. However, after having been shrugged off so many times, I feel like the street corner guy with the cardboard sign saying "The End Is Near..." Thank you Kate, Appreciate the reassurance.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago
















7














You go to your boss and say, in this order:




  • I have locked everything down so that an attack like that will not happen again

  • Insider attacks are always harder to defend against. For example they might take advantage of knowing some of us use the same passwords for several things. Practices that are perfectly safe against outsider attacks can leave us vulnerable to insider attacks

  • If you want to investigate the source of the attacks, I have quite a lot of data gathered already and can look into it further if it's important

  • I am personally convinced precisely who it was, though I couldn't prove it in a court of law. Let me know if that's something you want to pursue.


These are the things that matter to the boss. The direction of the conversation after that is up to the boss, not you.



The reason for this order is so that the boss can wander on a tangent or end the conversation at any time and the most important stuff was still covered. So after the first sentence, the boss may just say "good job, thanks, bye now" and you at least led with your accomplishment. After the second sentence you have mentioned that this wasn't a general failing to protect from strangers, but at most a minor flaw in your preparedness, and planted a seed about just who it is that reuses their passwords like that. The last two sentences have specific prompts for the boss to tell you things because if you've been allowed to say this many sentences, you're not getting shrugged off and can ask for authority to investigate and report your findings.






share|improve this answer


























  • Yeah, that is pretty much the opinion I've come too as well. However, after having been shrugged off so many times, I feel like the street corner guy with the cardboard sign saying "The End Is Near..." Thank you Kate, Appreciate the reassurance.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago














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7







You go to your boss and say, in this order:




  • I have locked everything down so that an attack like that will not happen again

  • Insider attacks are always harder to defend against. For example they might take advantage of knowing some of us use the same passwords for several things. Practices that are perfectly safe against outsider attacks can leave us vulnerable to insider attacks

  • If you want to investigate the source of the attacks, I have quite a lot of data gathered already and can look into it further if it's important

  • I am personally convinced precisely who it was, though I couldn't prove it in a court of law. Let me know if that's something you want to pursue.


These are the things that matter to the boss. The direction of the conversation after that is up to the boss, not you.



The reason for this order is so that the boss can wander on a tangent or end the conversation at any time and the most important stuff was still covered. So after the first sentence, the boss may just say "good job, thanks, bye now" and you at least led with your accomplishment. After the second sentence you have mentioned that this wasn't a general failing to protect from strangers, but at most a minor flaw in your preparedness, and planted a seed about just who it is that reuses their passwords like that. The last two sentences have specific prompts for the boss to tell you things because if you've been allowed to say this many sentences, you're not getting shrugged off and can ask for authority to investigate and report your findings.






share|improve this answer















You go to your boss and say, in this order:




  • I have locked everything down so that an attack like that will not happen again

  • Insider attacks are always harder to defend against. For example they might take advantage of knowing some of us use the same passwords for several things. Practices that are perfectly safe against outsider attacks can leave us vulnerable to insider attacks

  • If you want to investigate the source of the attacks, I have quite a lot of data gathered already and can look into it further if it's important

  • I am personally convinced precisely who it was, though I couldn't prove it in a court of law. Let me know if that's something you want to pursue.


These are the things that matter to the boss. The direction of the conversation after that is up to the boss, not you.



The reason for this order is so that the boss can wander on a tangent or end the conversation at any time and the most important stuff was still covered. So after the first sentence, the boss may just say "good job, thanks, bye now" and you at least led with your accomplishment. After the second sentence you have mentioned that this wasn't a general failing to protect from strangers, but at most a minor flaw in your preparedness, and planted a seed about just who it is that reuses their passwords like that. The last two sentences have specific prompts for the boss to tell you things because if you've been allowed to say this many sentences, you're not getting shrugged off and can ask for authority to investigate and report your findings.







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  • Yeah, that is pretty much the opinion I've come too as well. However, after having been shrugged off so many times, I feel like the street corner guy with the cardboard sign saying "The End Is Near..." Thank you Kate, Appreciate the reassurance.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago



















  • Yeah, that is pretty much the opinion I've come too as well. However, after having been shrugged off so many times, I feel like the street corner guy with the cardboard sign saying "The End Is Near..." Thank you Kate, Appreciate the reassurance.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago

















Yeah, that is pretty much the opinion I've come too as well. However, after having been shrugged off so many times, I feel like the street corner guy with the cardboard sign saying "The End Is Near..." Thank you Kate, Appreciate the reassurance.

– danFbach
2 hours ago





Yeah, that is pretty much the opinion I've come too as well. However, after having been shrugged off so many times, I feel like the street corner guy with the cardboard sign saying "The End Is Near..." Thank you Kate, Appreciate the reassurance.

– danFbach
2 hours ago













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You go to your boss, tell them everything you have, and the boss makes their decision.



There is no "innocent until proven guilty" here unless your boss wants to take the scriptskiddy to court and then to jail. The boss has in my opinion no choice other than firing the kid.






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  • Thanks, I'm of a similar opinion. Though, firing is not my choice to make. And lacking true "Digital Fingerprints," I do hold some reservations about making my case.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago
















3














You go to your boss, tell them everything you have, and the boss makes their decision.



There is no "innocent until proven guilty" here unless your boss wants to take the scriptskiddy to court and then to jail. The boss has in my opinion no choice other than firing the kid.






share|improve this answer
























  • Thanks, I'm of a similar opinion. Though, firing is not my choice to make. And lacking true "Digital Fingerprints," I do hold some reservations about making my case.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago














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3







You go to your boss, tell them everything you have, and the boss makes their decision.



There is no "innocent until proven guilty" here unless your boss wants to take the scriptskiddy to court and then to jail. The boss has in my opinion no choice other than firing the kid.






share|improve this answer













You go to your boss, tell them everything you have, and the boss makes their decision.



There is no "innocent until proven guilty" here unless your boss wants to take the scriptskiddy to court and then to jail. The boss has in my opinion no choice other than firing the kid.







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  • Thanks, I'm of a similar opinion. Though, firing is not my choice to make. And lacking true "Digital Fingerprints," I do hold some reservations about making my case.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago



















  • Thanks, I'm of a similar opinion. Though, firing is not my choice to make. And lacking true "Digital Fingerprints," I do hold some reservations about making my case.

    – danFbach
    2 hours ago

















Thanks, I'm of a similar opinion. Though, firing is not my choice to make. And lacking true "Digital Fingerprints," I do hold some reservations about making my case.

– danFbach
2 hours ago





Thanks, I'm of a similar opinion. Though, firing is not my choice to make. And lacking true "Digital Fingerprints," I do hold some reservations about making my case.

– danFbach
2 hours ago











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The kid is the minor of the problems your company has. The kid can easily be dealt with. The boss shrugging it off is the more major liability here.



Your company is dealing with credit cards. Dealing with credit cards comes with a whole list of regulations. Which includes promptly dealing with security issues. Your company probably does not want the credit card companies refusing to do business with you.



If your boss is shrugging it off, you go to her boss.






share|improve this answer
























  • yes, I am aware of PCI regulations. I'm also aware that credit card scraping happens everywhere, from fortune 500 to mom & pop shops. We follow regulations and our set up is quite secure - My superiors just didn't believe an attack could come from within which is why they resisted sec protocol changes. Finally this week, I chose to disobey and enact them. I caught some grief, but they're still in place.

    – danFbach
    1 hour ago











  • TBH it sounds like the setup of the company you describe is a shambles. When you say "Even Petco has been attacked!" that is because they made mistakes within a mature, professional setup. In contrast, it sounds like this current company is a dumpster fire. You should go work somewhere better. Get more money, too!

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago













  • In terms of Abigail's answer. The credit card companies are: whores. There's no other word. If you check "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" in a dictionary, you get a photo of Credit Card Companies. If you buy one of those "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" motivational meme posters, it has a photo of Credit Card Companies. So, you can't look to them for quality standards.

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago


















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The kid is the minor of the problems your company has. The kid can easily be dealt with. The boss shrugging it off is the more major liability here.



Your company is dealing with credit cards. Dealing with credit cards comes with a whole list of regulations. Which includes promptly dealing with security issues. Your company probably does not want the credit card companies refusing to do business with you.



If your boss is shrugging it off, you go to her boss.






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  • yes, I am aware of PCI regulations. I'm also aware that credit card scraping happens everywhere, from fortune 500 to mom & pop shops. We follow regulations and our set up is quite secure - My superiors just didn't believe an attack could come from within which is why they resisted sec protocol changes. Finally this week, I chose to disobey and enact them. I caught some grief, but they're still in place.

    – danFbach
    1 hour ago











  • TBH it sounds like the setup of the company you describe is a shambles. When you say "Even Petco has been attacked!" that is because they made mistakes within a mature, professional setup. In contrast, it sounds like this current company is a dumpster fire. You should go work somewhere better. Get more money, too!

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago













  • In terms of Abigail's answer. The credit card companies are: whores. There's no other word. If you check "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" in a dictionary, you get a photo of Credit Card Companies. If you buy one of those "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" motivational meme posters, it has a photo of Credit Card Companies. So, you can't look to them for quality standards.

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago
















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3







The kid is the minor of the problems your company has. The kid can easily be dealt with. The boss shrugging it off is the more major liability here.



Your company is dealing with credit cards. Dealing with credit cards comes with a whole list of regulations. Which includes promptly dealing with security issues. Your company probably does not want the credit card companies refusing to do business with you.



If your boss is shrugging it off, you go to her boss.






share|improve this answer













The kid is the minor of the problems your company has. The kid can easily be dealt with. The boss shrugging it off is the more major liability here.



Your company is dealing with credit cards. Dealing with credit cards comes with a whole list of regulations. Which includes promptly dealing with security issues. Your company probably does not want the credit card companies refusing to do business with you.



If your boss is shrugging it off, you go to her boss.







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  • yes, I am aware of PCI regulations. I'm also aware that credit card scraping happens everywhere, from fortune 500 to mom & pop shops. We follow regulations and our set up is quite secure - My superiors just didn't believe an attack could come from within which is why they resisted sec protocol changes. Finally this week, I chose to disobey and enact them. I caught some grief, but they're still in place.

    – danFbach
    1 hour ago











  • TBH it sounds like the setup of the company you describe is a shambles. When you say "Even Petco has been attacked!" that is because they made mistakes within a mature, professional setup. In contrast, it sounds like this current company is a dumpster fire. You should go work somewhere better. Get more money, too!

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago













  • In terms of Abigail's answer. The credit card companies are: whores. There's no other word. If you check "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" in a dictionary, you get a photo of Credit Card Companies. If you buy one of those "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" motivational meme posters, it has a photo of Credit Card Companies. So, you can't look to them for quality standards.

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago





















  • yes, I am aware of PCI regulations. I'm also aware that credit card scraping happens everywhere, from fortune 500 to mom & pop shops. We follow regulations and our set up is quite secure - My superiors just didn't believe an attack could come from within which is why they resisted sec protocol changes. Finally this week, I chose to disobey and enact them. I caught some grief, but they're still in place.

    – danFbach
    1 hour ago











  • TBH it sounds like the setup of the company you describe is a shambles. When you say "Even Petco has been attacked!" that is because they made mistakes within a mature, professional setup. In contrast, it sounds like this current company is a dumpster fire. You should go work somewhere better. Get more money, too!

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago













  • In terms of Abigail's answer. The credit card companies are: whores. There's no other word. If you check "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" in a dictionary, you get a photo of Credit Card Companies. If you buy one of those "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" motivational meme posters, it has a photo of Credit Card Companies. So, you can't look to them for quality standards.

    – Fattie
    1 hour ago



















yes, I am aware of PCI regulations. I'm also aware that credit card scraping happens everywhere, from fortune 500 to mom & pop shops. We follow regulations and our set up is quite secure - My superiors just didn't believe an attack could come from within which is why they resisted sec protocol changes. Finally this week, I chose to disobey and enact them. I caught some grief, but they're still in place.

– danFbach
1 hour ago





yes, I am aware of PCI regulations. I'm also aware that credit card scraping happens everywhere, from fortune 500 to mom & pop shops. We follow regulations and our set up is quite secure - My superiors just didn't believe an attack could come from within which is why they resisted sec protocol changes. Finally this week, I chose to disobey and enact them. I caught some grief, but they're still in place.

– danFbach
1 hour ago













TBH it sounds like the setup of the company you describe is a shambles. When you say "Even Petco has been attacked!" that is because they made mistakes within a mature, professional setup. In contrast, it sounds like this current company is a dumpster fire. You should go work somewhere better. Get more money, too!

– Fattie
1 hour ago







TBH it sounds like the setup of the company you describe is a shambles. When you say "Even Petco has been attacked!" that is because they made mistakes within a mature, professional setup. In contrast, it sounds like this current company is a dumpster fire. You should go work somewhere better. Get more money, too!

– Fattie
1 hour ago















In terms of Abigail's answer. The credit card companies are: whores. There's no other word. If you check "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" in a dictionary, you get a photo of Credit Card Companies. If you buy one of those "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" motivational meme posters, it has a photo of Credit Card Companies. So, you can't look to them for quality standards.

– Fattie
1 hour ago







In terms of Abigail's answer. The credit card companies are: whores. There's no other word. If you check "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" in a dictionary, you get a photo of Credit Card Companies. If you buy one of those "LOOK THE OTHER WAY" motivational meme posters, it has a photo of Credit Card Companies. So, you can't look to them for quality standards.

– Fattie
1 hour ago












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