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I want to create a magic item that would be basically a lute left by the almighty Pun-Pun. I highly doubt that he would lower his standards to use pitiful materials like adamantium or platinum. I am wondering what is the most expensive material in the world of Dungeons and Dragons that could be used instead. Materials from Dragon and Dungeon magazines are welcome. Previous editions would be fine as well, but their value would require a conversion to 3.5










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    @ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
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I want to create a magic item that would be basically a lute left by the almighty Pun-Pun. I highly doubt that he would lower his standards to use pitiful materials like adamantium or platinum. I am wondering what is the most expensive material in the world of Dungeons and Dragons that could be used instead. Materials from Dragon and Dungeon magazines are welcome. Previous editions would be fine as well, but their value would require a conversion to 3.5










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    Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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    Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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    – Zeiss Ikon
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    @ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
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I want to create a magic item that would be basically a lute left by the almighty Pun-Pun. I highly doubt that he would lower his standards to use pitiful materials like adamantium or platinum. I am wondering what is the most expensive material in the world of Dungeons and Dragons that could be used instead. Materials from Dragon and Dungeon magazines are welcome. Previous editions would be fine as well, but their value would require a conversion to 3.5










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I want to create a magic item that would be basically a lute left by the almighty Pun-Pun. I highly doubt that he would lower his standards to use pitiful materials like adamantium or platinum. I am wondering what is the most expensive material in the world of Dungeons and Dragons that could be used instead. Materials from Dragon and Dungeon magazines are welcome. Previous editions would be fine as well, but their value would require a conversion to 3.5







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    Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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    Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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    – Zeiss Ikon
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    $begingroup$
    @ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
    $endgroup$
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  • $begingroup$
    @ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
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    Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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    – Rubiksmoose
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  • $begingroup$
    Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
    $endgroup$
    – Zeiss Ikon
    2 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
    $endgroup$
    – doppelgreener
    2 hours ago












  • $begingroup$
    @ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
    $endgroup$
    – KorvinStarmast
    2 hours ago










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Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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– Rubiksmoose
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$begingroup$
Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago












$begingroup$
Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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– Zeiss Ikon
2 hours ago




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Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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– Zeiss Ikon
2 hours ago




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@ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
$endgroup$
– doppelgreener
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$begingroup$
@ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
$endgroup$
– doppelgreener
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$begingroup$
@ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
2 hours ago






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@ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
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Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound



Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):




A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)




From Complete Arcane (3e):




Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more




For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).



So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.






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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.



I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.






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    How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
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    – Pink Sweetener
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    @PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
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    From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound



Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):




A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)




From Complete Arcane (3e):




Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more




For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).



So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.






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    switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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$begingroup$

Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound



Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):




A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)




From Complete Arcane (3e):




Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more




For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).



So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.






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    switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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$begingroup$

Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound



Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):




A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)




From Complete Arcane (3e):




Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more




For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).



So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound



Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):




A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)




From Complete Arcane (3e):




Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more




For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).



So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.







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    switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.



I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.






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    I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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    How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
    $endgroup$
    – Pink Sweetener
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  • $begingroup$
    @PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
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    From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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$begingroup$

Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.



I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.






share|improve this answer











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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
    $endgroup$
    – goodguy5
    2 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
    $endgroup$
    – Pink Sweetener
    2 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
    $endgroup$
    – doppelgreener
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  • $begingroup$
    From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
    $endgroup$
    – KorvinStarmast
    2 hours ago














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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.



I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.






share|improve this answer











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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.



I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.







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    I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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    – goodguy5
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  • $begingroup$
    How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
    $endgroup$
    – Pink Sweetener
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  • $begingroup$
    @PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
    $endgroup$
    – doppelgreener
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  • $begingroup$
    From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
    $endgroup$
    – KorvinStarmast
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    $begingroup$
    I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
    $endgroup$
    – goodguy5
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  • $begingroup$
    How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
    $endgroup$
    – Pink Sweetener
    2 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
    $endgroup$
    – doppelgreener
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  • $begingroup$
    From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
    $endgroup$
    – KorvinStarmast
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I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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– goodguy5
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$begingroup$
How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
$endgroup$
– Pink Sweetener
2 hours ago




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How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
$endgroup$
– Pink Sweetener
2 hours ago












$begingroup$
@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
$endgroup$
– doppelgreener
2 hours ago






$begingroup$
@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
$endgroup$
– doppelgreener
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$begingroup$
From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
2 hours ago




$begingroup$
From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
$endgroup$
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