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How do I add a strong “onion flavor” to the biryani (in restaurant style)?
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I've had chicken biryani in restaurants and their biryanis taste extremely different from what we prepare at home. I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor".
We've got loads of biryani recipes and they're all more or less the same.
After a lot of pondering over the difference, I've begun to suspect that the restaurants are doing either of these things (or a combination of them):
They're somehow adding an onion flavor. Either that or they're adding something else that has a strong pungent, sour flavor.
They're adding an ingredient that gives a slight sweet taste. It's not tomato sauce, tomato puree, or sugar. There's something else. I've tried all of these methods.
Perhaps it's milk in some way.
How can I give a strong "onion flavor" or something similar to it to my biryani? How are the restaurants doing it?
indian-cuisine
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I've had chicken biryani in restaurants and their biryanis taste extremely different from what we prepare at home. I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor".
We've got loads of biryani recipes and they're all more or less the same.
After a lot of pondering over the difference, I've begun to suspect that the restaurants are doing either of these things (or a combination of them):
They're somehow adding an onion flavor. Either that or they're adding something else that has a strong pungent, sour flavor.
They're adding an ingredient that gives a slight sweet taste. It's not tomato sauce, tomato puree, or sugar. There's something else. I've tried all of these methods.
Perhaps it's milk in some way.
How can I give a strong "onion flavor" or something similar to it to my biryani? How are the restaurants doing it?
indian-cuisine
4
If you post your recipe, particularly the type, amount of, and process for incorporating your onion, you would likely get a more useful response.
– moscafj
23 hours ago
@moscafj Sure thing. Here's the one that I'm following: indianhealthyrecipes.com/chicken-biryani-in-pressure-cooker I'm hoping that a cook who's experienced in making Biryani (vegan or chicken), would see my post and instinctively know what I'm referring to.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@moscafj I'm just using onions normally in the recipe (as suggested in the link that I've provided). If I get into particular details of my use of onion then I'll end up hijacking the discussion particularly for onions. There is a reason why I've put onion flavor in quotes. I've also mentioned this clearly in the first line "I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor". In other words, I'm not saying that it HAS to do with the onions. It could be something else that gives off that sweet, pungent aroma.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@Tetsujin I'm cooking the ordinary onions that we get in the markets. I don't think that it's to do with a particular brand of onion because the restaurants aren't going to use an imported variety. They're also using the same ordinary onions that we have in the market. I've tried cooking them on a high flame (to make them crispier) as well slow cooking them (sauteing) them. In both the cases the final flavor/aroma depends on the spices that I've used (as outlined in the link that I've provided).
– Mugen
22 hours ago
2
There's a colloquial saying, if you know how to make rotis and birista, you can cook anything. Birista is the crisp fried onion that goes on biryani, and both rotis and birista are tough to get right without practice.
– Pranab
17 hours ago
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I've had chicken biryani in restaurants and their biryanis taste extremely different from what we prepare at home. I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor".
We've got loads of biryani recipes and they're all more or less the same.
After a lot of pondering over the difference, I've begun to suspect that the restaurants are doing either of these things (or a combination of them):
They're somehow adding an onion flavor. Either that or they're adding something else that has a strong pungent, sour flavor.
They're adding an ingredient that gives a slight sweet taste. It's not tomato sauce, tomato puree, or sugar. There's something else. I've tried all of these methods.
Perhaps it's milk in some way.
How can I give a strong "onion flavor" or something similar to it to my biryani? How are the restaurants doing it?
indian-cuisine
I've had chicken biryani in restaurants and their biryanis taste extremely different from what we prepare at home. I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor".
We've got loads of biryani recipes and they're all more or less the same.
After a lot of pondering over the difference, I've begun to suspect that the restaurants are doing either of these things (or a combination of them):
They're somehow adding an onion flavor. Either that or they're adding something else that has a strong pungent, sour flavor.
They're adding an ingredient that gives a slight sweet taste. It's not tomato sauce, tomato puree, or sugar. There's something else. I've tried all of these methods.
Perhaps it's milk in some way.
How can I give a strong "onion flavor" or something similar to it to my biryani? How are the restaurants doing it?
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If you post your recipe, particularly the type, amount of, and process for incorporating your onion, you would likely get a more useful response.
– moscafj
23 hours ago
@moscafj Sure thing. Here's the one that I'm following: indianhealthyrecipes.com/chicken-biryani-in-pressure-cooker I'm hoping that a cook who's experienced in making Biryani (vegan or chicken), would see my post and instinctively know what I'm referring to.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@moscafj I'm just using onions normally in the recipe (as suggested in the link that I've provided). If I get into particular details of my use of onion then I'll end up hijacking the discussion particularly for onions. There is a reason why I've put onion flavor in quotes. I've also mentioned this clearly in the first line "I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor". In other words, I'm not saying that it HAS to do with the onions. It could be something else that gives off that sweet, pungent aroma.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@Tetsujin I'm cooking the ordinary onions that we get in the markets. I don't think that it's to do with a particular brand of onion because the restaurants aren't going to use an imported variety. They're also using the same ordinary onions that we have in the market. I've tried cooking them on a high flame (to make them crispier) as well slow cooking them (sauteing) them. In both the cases the final flavor/aroma depends on the spices that I've used (as outlined in the link that I've provided).
– Mugen
22 hours ago
2
There's a colloquial saying, if you know how to make rotis and birista, you can cook anything. Birista is the crisp fried onion that goes on biryani, and both rotis and birista are tough to get right without practice.
– Pranab
17 hours ago
add a comment |
4
If you post your recipe, particularly the type, amount of, and process for incorporating your onion, you would likely get a more useful response.
– moscafj
23 hours ago
@moscafj Sure thing. Here's the one that I'm following: indianhealthyrecipes.com/chicken-biryani-in-pressure-cooker I'm hoping that a cook who's experienced in making Biryani (vegan or chicken), would see my post and instinctively know what I'm referring to.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@moscafj I'm just using onions normally in the recipe (as suggested in the link that I've provided). If I get into particular details of my use of onion then I'll end up hijacking the discussion particularly for onions. There is a reason why I've put onion flavor in quotes. I've also mentioned this clearly in the first line "I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor". In other words, I'm not saying that it HAS to do with the onions. It could be something else that gives off that sweet, pungent aroma.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@Tetsujin I'm cooking the ordinary onions that we get in the markets. I don't think that it's to do with a particular brand of onion because the restaurants aren't going to use an imported variety. They're also using the same ordinary onions that we have in the market. I've tried cooking them on a high flame (to make them crispier) as well slow cooking them (sauteing) them. In both the cases the final flavor/aroma depends on the spices that I've used (as outlined in the link that I've provided).
– Mugen
22 hours ago
2
There's a colloquial saying, if you know how to make rotis and birista, you can cook anything. Birista is the crisp fried onion that goes on biryani, and both rotis and birista are tough to get right without practice.
– Pranab
17 hours ago
4
4
If you post your recipe, particularly the type, amount of, and process for incorporating your onion, you would likely get a more useful response.
– moscafj
23 hours ago
If you post your recipe, particularly the type, amount of, and process for incorporating your onion, you would likely get a more useful response.
– moscafj
23 hours ago
@moscafj Sure thing. Here's the one that I'm following: indianhealthyrecipes.com/chicken-biryani-in-pressure-cooker I'm hoping that a cook who's experienced in making Biryani (vegan or chicken), would see my post and instinctively know what I'm referring to.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@moscafj Sure thing. Here's the one that I'm following: indianhealthyrecipes.com/chicken-biryani-in-pressure-cooker I'm hoping that a cook who's experienced in making Biryani (vegan or chicken), would see my post and instinctively know what I'm referring to.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@moscafj I'm just using onions normally in the recipe (as suggested in the link that I've provided). If I get into particular details of my use of onion then I'll end up hijacking the discussion particularly for onions. There is a reason why I've put onion flavor in quotes. I've also mentioned this clearly in the first line "I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor". In other words, I'm not saying that it HAS to do with the onions. It could be something else that gives off that sweet, pungent aroma.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@moscafj I'm just using onions normally in the recipe (as suggested in the link that I've provided). If I get into particular details of my use of onion then I'll end up hijacking the discussion particularly for onions. There is a reason why I've put onion flavor in quotes. I've also mentioned this clearly in the first line "I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor". In other words, I'm not saying that it HAS to do with the onions. It could be something else that gives off that sweet, pungent aroma.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@Tetsujin I'm cooking the ordinary onions that we get in the markets. I don't think that it's to do with a particular brand of onion because the restaurants aren't going to use an imported variety. They're also using the same ordinary onions that we have in the market. I've tried cooking them on a high flame (to make them crispier) as well slow cooking them (sauteing) them. In both the cases the final flavor/aroma depends on the spices that I've used (as outlined in the link that I've provided).
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@Tetsujin I'm cooking the ordinary onions that we get in the markets. I don't think that it's to do with a particular brand of onion because the restaurants aren't going to use an imported variety. They're also using the same ordinary onions that we have in the market. I've tried cooking them on a high flame (to make them crispier) as well slow cooking them (sauteing) them. In both the cases the final flavor/aroma depends on the spices that I've used (as outlined in the link that I've provided).
– Mugen
22 hours ago
2
2
There's a colloquial saying, if you know how to make rotis and birista, you can cook anything. Birista is the crisp fried onion that goes on biryani, and both rotis and birista are tough to get right without practice.
– Pranab
17 hours ago
There's a colloquial saying, if you know how to make rotis and birista, you can cook anything. Birista is the crisp fried onion that goes on biryani, and both rotis and birista are tough to get right without practice.
– Pranab
17 hours ago
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The restaurants may be adding asafoetida, a ground root product that adds a savory, onion-y flavor to food. It's very concentrated stuff and smells awful, but once you cook it for awhile it's absolute magic.
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If you're shopping at Indian grocers you'll also often see it labelled as "Hing".
– J...
13 hours ago
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I make biryani frequently. The recipe I follow differs from your link in a couple of areas. Specifically, in terms of your concern about onion flavor, my recipe uses much more oil, and twice as much onion. I slowly fry two, very thinly sliced, large onions (the variety doesn't seem to matter so much), in 3/4 cup of oil. The onions are cooked until they take on a golden hue. This can take 10 to 15 minutes. The onions are then removed from the pot. I leave about 1/4 cup of oil in the pot, which is the vessel that I will use to layer the rice, chicken, onions and herbs.
This is significant for a couple of reasons. First, oil transports flavor. So, in addition to the onions themselves, there is a base of onion flavored oil. In addition, once the layers are complete, another 1/4 cup of the leftover onion flavored oil (from draining onions) is drizzled over the top. Secondly, the slowly cooked onions are layered throughout the biryani. (This also helps to create an excellent browned crust of rice and chicken when the final product is turned out of the pot).
In my version, the spices are mixed with the chicken and yogurt, as part of a marinade. They are not added to the onion. However, I am sure there is much variation in how biryani is made. I am not suggesting a correct version, just some possible insight in how to enhance your onion flavor and sweetness (which comes from the caramelized onion).
I would also add, that if you are indeed following the recipe to the letter, and using a pressure cooker, that pressure cooking tends to drastically mute onion flavor. I found this to be true when making stocks using my pressure cooker. I would try cooking this in the traditional way (not the pressure cooker) to see if that helps.
"3/4 cup of oil" is this a typo? Because that's a lot of oil. I don't think it counts as sauteing anymore unless you're cooking in a tilt skillet.
– MikeTheLiar
20 hours ago
4
...not a typo...ok, technically frying. I use an enameled cast iron pot.
– moscafj
19 hours ago
4
@MikeTheLiar that's fairly typical in my experience
– Pureferret
19 hours ago
@Pureferret what, sauteing onions in 3/4 of a cup of oil?
– MikeTheLiar
17 hours ago
4
@MikeTheLiar For this type of recipe, yes. Different dishes call for different means of preparation... and Indian food tends to use a LOT of fat.
– only_pro
17 hours ago
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The biryani recipe which I use calls for kewra (screw pine extract). This may be the slightly sweet taste which you are missing.
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I'm not sure if this gets at exactly what I'd call an "onion" flavour, but otherwise your experience sounds very similar to mine. I was pretty good at many different Indian recipes, but for the longest time, biryani eluded me. I tried all kinds of different things and ingredients and combinations, but could never seem to quite nail down a recipe that made my biryani taste "biryani-ey."
Until finally I hit on the magic ingredient: methi (fenugreek)!
Specifically, the powdered methi (I tend to prefer Shan brand, but MDH and National are good too). About 1/8 tsp methi per portion of biryani, and it completely transforms the dish, giving it a real biryani taste. (So in the recipe you posted, about 1/2 tsp methi.)
I notice you don't have any methi in that recipe, so maybe give it a try and you'll discover that's what's missing? Can't hurt!
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You could try grating the onion rather than finely dicing it. Grating ruptures more of the cells and contributes a much stronger flavour throughout the dish.
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I've tried that too. All recipes call for pan-frying the onion at the start and adding a bunch of Indian spices. The problem with grinding onions into very small pieces is that on pan-frying it becomes a lump that sticks together. For some odd reason it tastes even less like onions and more like "toast crumbs".
– Mugen
yesterday
@Mugen : grate the onion and save the liquid (not necessarily the pulp ... you might need to squeeze it)... after you've cooked down the other vegetables, add the onion juice with the other liquids. I'd add this in addition to the diced onions, so you still have the original texture.
– Joe
16 hours ago
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They may be adding tamarind paste. It's a somewhat sweet/tangy flavor and is common in indian cuisine.
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Is Tamarind common in a Biryani recipe?
– elbrant
8 hours ago
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@elbrant : there are a wide range of biryani. It's more a style of preparation and not a specific dish. See cooking.stackexchange.com/q/93688/67
– Joe
8 hours ago
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If you search for 'indian base sauce' you might get some good hints. I've heard that usually in Indian restaurants, the curries are based on a 'base' sauce which is prepared separately. It has lots of onions, as well as some other veg and spices, and after the frying, the sauce is pureed. It might be that the process of pureeing releases more of the onioniness that you are looking for.
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The restaurants may be adding asafoetida, a ground root product that adds a savory, onion-y flavor to food. It's very concentrated stuff and smells awful, but once you cook it for awhile it's absolute magic.
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If you're shopping at Indian grocers you'll also often see it labelled as "Hing".
– J...
13 hours ago
add a comment |
The restaurants may be adding asafoetida, a ground root product that adds a savory, onion-y flavor to food. It's very concentrated stuff and smells awful, but once you cook it for awhile it's absolute magic.
4
If you're shopping at Indian grocers you'll also often see it labelled as "Hing".
– J...
13 hours ago
add a comment |
The restaurants may be adding asafoetida, a ground root product that adds a savory, onion-y flavor to food. It's very concentrated stuff and smells awful, but once you cook it for awhile it's absolute magic.
The restaurants may be adding asafoetida, a ground root product that adds a savory, onion-y flavor to food. It's very concentrated stuff and smells awful, but once you cook it for awhile it's absolute magic.
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If you're shopping at Indian grocers you'll also often see it labelled as "Hing".
– J...
13 hours ago
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If you're shopping at Indian grocers you'll also often see it labelled as "Hing".
– J...
13 hours ago
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If you're shopping at Indian grocers you'll also often see it labelled as "Hing".
– J...
13 hours ago
If you're shopping at Indian grocers you'll also often see it labelled as "Hing".
– J...
13 hours ago
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I make biryani frequently. The recipe I follow differs from your link in a couple of areas. Specifically, in terms of your concern about onion flavor, my recipe uses much more oil, and twice as much onion. I slowly fry two, very thinly sliced, large onions (the variety doesn't seem to matter so much), in 3/4 cup of oil. The onions are cooked until they take on a golden hue. This can take 10 to 15 minutes. The onions are then removed from the pot. I leave about 1/4 cup of oil in the pot, which is the vessel that I will use to layer the rice, chicken, onions and herbs.
This is significant for a couple of reasons. First, oil transports flavor. So, in addition to the onions themselves, there is a base of onion flavored oil. In addition, once the layers are complete, another 1/4 cup of the leftover onion flavored oil (from draining onions) is drizzled over the top. Secondly, the slowly cooked onions are layered throughout the biryani. (This also helps to create an excellent browned crust of rice and chicken when the final product is turned out of the pot).
In my version, the spices are mixed with the chicken and yogurt, as part of a marinade. They are not added to the onion. However, I am sure there is much variation in how biryani is made. I am not suggesting a correct version, just some possible insight in how to enhance your onion flavor and sweetness (which comes from the caramelized onion).
I would also add, that if you are indeed following the recipe to the letter, and using a pressure cooker, that pressure cooking tends to drastically mute onion flavor. I found this to be true when making stocks using my pressure cooker. I would try cooking this in the traditional way (not the pressure cooker) to see if that helps.
"3/4 cup of oil" is this a typo? Because that's a lot of oil. I don't think it counts as sauteing anymore unless you're cooking in a tilt skillet.
– MikeTheLiar
20 hours ago
4
...not a typo...ok, technically frying. I use an enameled cast iron pot.
– moscafj
19 hours ago
4
@MikeTheLiar that's fairly typical in my experience
– Pureferret
19 hours ago
@Pureferret what, sauteing onions in 3/4 of a cup of oil?
– MikeTheLiar
17 hours ago
4
@MikeTheLiar For this type of recipe, yes. Different dishes call for different means of preparation... and Indian food tends to use a LOT of fat.
– only_pro
17 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
I make biryani frequently. The recipe I follow differs from your link in a couple of areas. Specifically, in terms of your concern about onion flavor, my recipe uses much more oil, and twice as much onion. I slowly fry two, very thinly sliced, large onions (the variety doesn't seem to matter so much), in 3/4 cup of oil. The onions are cooked until they take on a golden hue. This can take 10 to 15 minutes. The onions are then removed from the pot. I leave about 1/4 cup of oil in the pot, which is the vessel that I will use to layer the rice, chicken, onions and herbs.
This is significant for a couple of reasons. First, oil transports flavor. So, in addition to the onions themselves, there is a base of onion flavored oil. In addition, once the layers are complete, another 1/4 cup of the leftover onion flavored oil (from draining onions) is drizzled over the top. Secondly, the slowly cooked onions are layered throughout the biryani. (This also helps to create an excellent browned crust of rice and chicken when the final product is turned out of the pot).
In my version, the spices are mixed with the chicken and yogurt, as part of a marinade. They are not added to the onion. However, I am sure there is much variation in how biryani is made. I am not suggesting a correct version, just some possible insight in how to enhance your onion flavor and sweetness (which comes from the caramelized onion).
I would also add, that if you are indeed following the recipe to the letter, and using a pressure cooker, that pressure cooking tends to drastically mute onion flavor. I found this to be true when making stocks using my pressure cooker. I would try cooking this in the traditional way (not the pressure cooker) to see if that helps.
"3/4 cup of oil" is this a typo? Because that's a lot of oil. I don't think it counts as sauteing anymore unless you're cooking in a tilt skillet.
– MikeTheLiar
20 hours ago
4
...not a typo...ok, technically frying. I use an enameled cast iron pot.
– moscafj
19 hours ago
4
@MikeTheLiar that's fairly typical in my experience
– Pureferret
19 hours ago
@Pureferret what, sauteing onions in 3/4 of a cup of oil?
– MikeTheLiar
17 hours ago
4
@MikeTheLiar For this type of recipe, yes. Different dishes call for different means of preparation... and Indian food tends to use a LOT of fat.
– only_pro
17 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
I make biryani frequently. The recipe I follow differs from your link in a couple of areas. Specifically, in terms of your concern about onion flavor, my recipe uses much more oil, and twice as much onion. I slowly fry two, very thinly sliced, large onions (the variety doesn't seem to matter so much), in 3/4 cup of oil. The onions are cooked until they take on a golden hue. This can take 10 to 15 minutes. The onions are then removed from the pot. I leave about 1/4 cup of oil in the pot, which is the vessel that I will use to layer the rice, chicken, onions and herbs.
This is significant for a couple of reasons. First, oil transports flavor. So, in addition to the onions themselves, there is a base of onion flavored oil. In addition, once the layers are complete, another 1/4 cup of the leftover onion flavored oil (from draining onions) is drizzled over the top. Secondly, the slowly cooked onions are layered throughout the biryani. (This also helps to create an excellent browned crust of rice and chicken when the final product is turned out of the pot).
In my version, the spices are mixed with the chicken and yogurt, as part of a marinade. They are not added to the onion. However, I am sure there is much variation in how biryani is made. I am not suggesting a correct version, just some possible insight in how to enhance your onion flavor and sweetness (which comes from the caramelized onion).
I would also add, that if you are indeed following the recipe to the letter, and using a pressure cooker, that pressure cooking tends to drastically mute onion flavor. I found this to be true when making stocks using my pressure cooker. I would try cooking this in the traditional way (not the pressure cooker) to see if that helps.
I make biryani frequently. The recipe I follow differs from your link in a couple of areas. Specifically, in terms of your concern about onion flavor, my recipe uses much more oil, and twice as much onion. I slowly fry two, very thinly sliced, large onions (the variety doesn't seem to matter so much), in 3/4 cup of oil. The onions are cooked until they take on a golden hue. This can take 10 to 15 minutes. The onions are then removed from the pot. I leave about 1/4 cup of oil in the pot, which is the vessel that I will use to layer the rice, chicken, onions and herbs.
This is significant for a couple of reasons. First, oil transports flavor. So, in addition to the onions themselves, there is a base of onion flavored oil. In addition, once the layers are complete, another 1/4 cup of the leftover onion flavored oil (from draining onions) is drizzled over the top. Secondly, the slowly cooked onions are layered throughout the biryani. (This also helps to create an excellent browned crust of rice and chicken when the final product is turned out of the pot).
In my version, the spices are mixed with the chicken and yogurt, as part of a marinade. They are not added to the onion. However, I am sure there is much variation in how biryani is made. I am not suggesting a correct version, just some possible insight in how to enhance your onion flavor and sweetness (which comes from the caramelized onion).
I would also add, that if you are indeed following the recipe to the letter, and using a pressure cooker, that pressure cooking tends to drastically mute onion flavor. I found this to be true when making stocks using my pressure cooker. I would try cooking this in the traditional way (not the pressure cooker) to see if that helps.
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"3/4 cup of oil" is this a typo? Because that's a lot of oil. I don't think it counts as sauteing anymore unless you're cooking in a tilt skillet.
– MikeTheLiar
20 hours ago
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...not a typo...ok, technically frying. I use an enameled cast iron pot.
– moscafj
19 hours ago
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@MikeTheLiar that's fairly typical in my experience
– Pureferret
19 hours ago
@Pureferret what, sauteing onions in 3/4 of a cup of oil?
– MikeTheLiar
17 hours ago
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@MikeTheLiar For this type of recipe, yes. Different dishes call for different means of preparation... and Indian food tends to use a LOT of fat.
– only_pro
17 hours ago
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"3/4 cup of oil" is this a typo? Because that's a lot of oil. I don't think it counts as sauteing anymore unless you're cooking in a tilt skillet.
– MikeTheLiar
20 hours ago
4
...not a typo...ok, technically frying. I use an enameled cast iron pot.
– moscafj
19 hours ago
4
@MikeTheLiar that's fairly typical in my experience
– Pureferret
19 hours ago
@Pureferret what, sauteing onions in 3/4 of a cup of oil?
– MikeTheLiar
17 hours ago
4
@MikeTheLiar For this type of recipe, yes. Different dishes call for different means of preparation... and Indian food tends to use a LOT of fat.
– only_pro
17 hours ago
"3/4 cup of oil" is this a typo? Because that's a lot of oil. I don't think it counts as sauteing anymore unless you're cooking in a tilt skillet.
– MikeTheLiar
20 hours ago
"3/4 cup of oil" is this a typo? Because that's a lot of oil. I don't think it counts as sauteing anymore unless you're cooking in a tilt skillet.
– MikeTheLiar
20 hours ago
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...not a typo...ok, technically frying. I use an enameled cast iron pot.
– moscafj
19 hours ago
...not a typo...ok, technically frying. I use an enameled cast iron pot.
– moscafj
19 hours ago
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4
@MikeTheLiar that's fairly typical in my experience
– Pureferret
19 hours ago
@MikeTheLiar that's fairly typical in my experience
– Pureferret
19 hours ago
@Pureferret what, sauteing onions in 3/4 of a cup of oil?
– MikeTheLiar
17 hours ago
@Pureferret what, sauteing onions in 3/4 of a cup of oil?
– MikeTheLiar
17 hours ago
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4
@MikeTheLiar For this type of recipe, yes. Different dishes call for different means of preparation... and Indian food tends to use a LOT of fat.
– only_pro
17 hours ago
@MikeTheLiar For this type of recipe, yes. Different dishes call for different means of preparation... and Indian food tends to use a LOT of fat.
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The biryani recipe which I use calls for kewra (screw pine extract). This may be the slightly sweet taste which you are missing.
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The biryani recipe which I use calls for kewra (screw pine extract). This may be the slightly sweet taste which you are missing.
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The biryani recipe which I use calls for kewra (screw pine extract). This may be the slightly sweet taste which you are missing.
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The biryani recipe which I use calls for kewra (screw pine extract). This may be the slightly sweet taste which you are missing.
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answered 21 hours ago
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I'm not sure if this gets at exactly what I'd call an "onion" flavour, but otherwise your experience sounds very similar to mine. I was pretty good at many different Indian recipes, but for the longest time, biryani eluded me. I tried all kinds of different things and ingredients and combinations, but could never seem to quite nail down a recipe that made my biryani taste "biryani-ey."
Until finally I hit on the magic ingredient: methi (fenugreek)!
Specifically, the powdered methi (I tend to prefer Shan brand, but MDH and National are good too). About 1/8 tsp methi per portion of biryani, and it completely transforms the dish, giving it a real biryani taste. (So in the recipe you posted, about 1/2 tsp methi.)
I notice you don't have any methi in that recipe, so maybe give it a try and you'll discover that's what's missing? Can't hurt!
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I'm not sure if this gets at exactly what I'd call an "onion" flavour, but otherwise your experience sounds very similar to mine. I was pretty good at many different Indian recipes, but for the longest time, biryani eluded me. I tried all kinds of different things and ingredients and combinations, but could never seem to quite nail down a recipe that made my biryani taste "biryani-ey."
Until finally I hit on the magic ingredient: methi (fenugreek)!
Specifically, the powdered methi (I tend to prefer Shan brand, but MDH and National are good too). About 1/8 tsp methi per portion of biryani, and it completely transforms the dish, giving it a real biryani taste. (So in the recipe you posted, about 1/2 tsp methi.)
I notice you don't have any methi in that recipe, so maybe give it a try and you'll discover that's what's missing? Can't hurt!
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I'm not sure if this gets at exactly what I'd call an "onion" flavour, but otherwise your experience sounds very similar to mine. I was pretty good at many different Indian recipes, but for the longest time, biryani eluded me. I tried all kinds of different things and ingredients and combinations, but could never seem to quite nail down a recipe that made my biryani taste "biryani-ey."
Until finally I hit on the magic ingredient: methi (fenugreek)!
Specifically, the powdered methi (I tend to prefer Shan brand, but MDH and National are good too). About 1/8 tsp methi per portion of biryani, and it completely transforms the dish, giving it a real biryani taste. (So in the recipe you posted, about 1/2 tsp methi.)
I notice you don't have any methi in that recipe, so maybe give it a try and you'll discover that's what's missing? Can't hurt!
New contributor
I'm not sure if this gets at exactly what I'd call an "onion" flavour, but otherwise your experience sounds very similar to mine. I was pretty good at many different Indian recipes, but for the longest time, biryani eluded me. I tried all kinds of different things and ingredients and combinations, but could never seem to quite nail down a recipe that made my biryani taste "biryani-ey."
Until finally I hit on the magic ingredient: methi (fenugreek)!
Specifically, the powdered methi (I tend to prefer Shan brand, but MDH and National are good too). About 1/8 tsp methi per portion of biryani, and it completely transforms the dish, giving it a real biryani taste. (So in the recipe you posted, about 1/2 tsp methi.)
I notice you don't have any methi in that recipe, so maybe give it a try and you'll discover that's what's missing? Can't hurt!
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You could try grating the onion rather than finely dicing it. Grating ruptures more of the cells and contributes a much stronger flavour throughout the dish.
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I've tried that too. All recipes call for pan-frying the onion at the start and adding a bunch of Indian spices. The problem with grinding onions into very small pieces is that on pan-frying it becomes a lump that sticks together. For some odd reason it tastes even less like onions and more like "toast crumbs".
– Mugen
yesterday
@Mugen : grate the onion and save the liquid (not necessarily the pulp ... you might need to squeeze it)... after you've cooked down the other vegetables, add the onion juice with the other liquids. I'd add this in addition to the diced onions, so you still have the original texture.
– Joe
16 hours ago
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You could try grating the onion rather than finely dicing it. Grating ruptures more of the cells and contributes a much stronger flavour throughout the dish.
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I've tried that too. All recipes call for pan-frying the onion at the start and adding a bunch of Indian spices. The problem with grinding onions into very small pieces is that on pan-frying it becomes a lump that sticks together. For some odd reason it tastes even less like onions and more like "toast crumbs".
– Mugen
yesterday
@Mugen : grate the onion and save the liquid (not necessarily the pulp ... you might need to squeeze it)... after you've cooked down the other vegetables, add the onion juice with the other liquids. I'd add this in addition to the diced onions, so you still have the original texture.
– Joe
16 hours ago
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You could try grating the onion rather than finely dicing it. Grating ruptures more of the cells and contributes a much stronger flavour throughout the dish.
You could try grating the onion rather than finely dicing it. Grating ruptures more of the cells and contributes a much stronger flavour throughout the dish.
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I've tried that too. All recipes call for pan-frying the onion at the start and adding a bunch of Indian spices. The problem with grinding onions into very small pieces is that on pan-frying it becomes a lump that sticks together. For some odd reason it tastes even less like onions and more like "toast crumbs".
– Mugen
yesterday
@Mugen : grate the onion and save the liquid (not necessarily the pulp ... you might need to squeeze it)... after you've cooked down the other vegetables, add the onion juice with the other liquids. I'd add this in addition to the diced onions, so you still have the original texture.
– Joe
16 hours ago
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I've tried that too. All recipes call for pan-frying the onion at the start and adding a bunch of Indian spices. The problem with grinding onions into very small pieces is that on pan-frying it becomes a lump that sticks together. For some odd reason it tastes even less like onions and more like "toast crumbs".
– Mugen
yesterday
@Mugen : grate the onion and save the liquid (not necessarily the pulp ... you might need to squeeze it)... after you've cooked down the other vegetables, add the onion juice with the other liquids. I'd add this in addition to the diced onions, so you still have the original texture.
– Joe
16 hours ago
1
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I've tried that too. All recipes call for pan-frying the onion at the start and adding a bunch of Indian spices. The problem with grinding onions into very small pieces is that on pan-frying it becomes a lump that sticks together. For some odd reason it tastes even less like onions and more like "toast crumbs".
– Mugen
yesterday
I've tried that too. All recipes call for pan-frying the onion at the start and adding a bunch of Indian spices. The problem with grinding onions into very small pieces is that on pan-frying it becomes a lump that sticks together. For some odd reason it tastes even less like onions and more like "toast crumbs".
– Mugen
yesterday
@Mugen : grate the onion and save the liquid (not necessarily the pulp ... you might need to squeeze it)... after you've cooked down the other vegetables, add the onion juice with the other liquids. I'd add this in addition to the diced onions, so you still have the original texture.
– Joe
16 hours ago
@Mugen : grate the onion and save the liquid (not necessarily the pulp ... you might need to squeeze it)... after you've cooked down the other vegetables, add the onion juice with the other liquids. I'd add this in addition to the diced onions, so you still have the original texture.
– Joe
16 hours ago
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They may be adding tamarind paste. It's a somewhat sweet/tangy flavor and is common in indian cuisine.
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Is Tamarind common in a Biryani recipe?
– elbrant
8 hours ago
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@elbrant : there are a wide range of biryani. It's more a style of preparation and not a specific dish. See cooking.stackexchange.com/q/93688/67
– Joe
8 hours ago
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They may be adding tamarind paste. It's a somewhat sweet/tangy flavor and is common in indian cuisine.
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Is Tamarind common in a Biryani recipe?
– elbrant
8 hours ago
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@elbrant : there are a wide range of biryani. It's more a style of preparation and not a specific dish. See cooking.stackexchange.com/q/93688/67
– Joe
8 hours ago
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They may be adding tamarind paste. It's a somewhat sweet/tangy flavor and is common in indian cuisine.
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They may be adding tamarind paste. It's a somewhat sweet/tangy flavor and is common in indian cuisine.
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answered 14 hours ago
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Is Tamarind common in a Biryani recipe?
– elbrant
8 hours ago
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@elbrant : there are a wide range of biryani. It's more a style of preparation and not a specific dish. See cooking.stackexchange.com/q/93688/67
– Joe
8 hours ago
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Is Tamarind common in a Biryani recipe?
– elbrant
8 hours ago
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@elbrant : there are a wide range of biryani. It's more a style of preparation and not a specific dish. See cooking.stackexchange.com/q/93688/67
– Joe
8 hours ago
Is Tamarind common in a Biryani recipe?
– elbrant
8 hours ago
Is Tamarind common in a Biryani recipe?
– elbrant
8 hours ago
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@elbrant : there are a wide range of biryani. It's more a style of preparation and not a specific dish. See cooking.stackexchange.com/q/93688/67
– Joe
8 hours ago
@elbrant : there are a wide range of biryani. It's more a style of preparation and not a specific dish. See cooking.stackexchange.com/q/93688/67
– Joe
8 hours ago
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If you search for 'indian base sauce' you might get some good hints. I've heard that usually in Indian restaurants, the curries are based on a 'base' sauce which is prepared separately. It has lots of onions, as well as some other veg and spices, and after the frying, the sauce is pureed. It might be that the process of pureeing releases more of the onioniness that you are looking for.
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If you search for 'indian base sauce' you might get some good hints. I've heard that usually in Indian restaurants, the curries are based on a 'base' sauce which is prepared separately. It has lots of onions, as well as some other veg and spices, and after the frying, the sauce is pureed. It might be that the process of pureeing releases more of the onioniness that you are looking for.
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If you search for 'indian base sauce' you might get some good hints. I've heard that usually in Indian restaurants, the curries are based on a 'base' sauce which is prepared separately. It has lots of onions, as well as some other veg and spices, and after the frying, the sauce is pureed. It might be that the process of pureeing releases more of the onioniness that you are looking for.
If you search for 'indian base sauce' you might get some good hints. I've heard that usually in Indian restaurants, the curries are based on a 'base' sauce which is prepared separately. It has lots of onions, as well as some other veg and spices, and after the frying, the sauce is pureed. It might be that the process of pureeing releases more of the onioniness that you are looking for.
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If you post your recipe, particularly the type, amount of, and process for incorporating your onion, you would likely get a more useful response.
– moscafj
23 hours ago
@moscafj Sure thing. Here's the one that I'm following: indianhealthyrecipes.com/chicken-biryani-in-pressure-cooker I'm hoping that a cook who's experienced in making Biryani (vegan or chicken), would see my post and instinctively know what I'm referring to.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@moscafj I'm just using onions normally in the recipe (as suggested in the link that I've provided). If I get into particular details of my use of onion then I'll end up hijacking the discussion particularly for onions. There is a reason why I've put onion flavor in quotes. I've also mentioned this clearly in the first line "I'm not sure how to describe it except that it's an "onion flavor". In other words, I'm not saying that it HAS to do with the onions. It could be something else that gives off that sweet, pungent aroma.
– Mugen
22 hours ago
@Tetsujin I'm cooking the ordinary onions that we get in the markets. I don't think that it's to do with a particular brand of onion because the restaurants aren't going to use an imported variety. They're also using the same ordinary onions that we have in the market. I've tried cooking them on a high flame (to make them crispier) as well slow cooking them (sauteing) them. In both the cases the final flavor/aroma depends on the spices that I've used (as outlined in the link that I've provided).
– Mugen
22 hours ago
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There's a colloquial saying, if you know how to make rotis and birista, you can cook anything. Birista is the crisp fried onion that goes on biryani, and both rotis and birista are tough to get right without practice.
– Pranab
17 hours ago