Coworker is trying to get me to sign his petition to run for office. How to decline politely?2019 Community...
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Coworker is trying to get me to sign his petition to run for office. How to decline politely?
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My coworker knows that I live in "his district" and he's been coming up to my desk for the past few days asking me to sign his petition to run for local office. Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party. I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone.
So far I've been getting away with saying I can't currently sign it - I'll get up and pretend to have a meeting or a phone call. I'd like his harassment to stop, so how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
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My coworker knows that I live in "his district" and he's been coming up to my desk for the past few days asking me to sign his petition to run for local office. Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party. I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone.
So far I've been getting away with saying I can't currently sign it - I'll get up and pretend to have a meeting or a phone call. I'd like his harassment to stop, so how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
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Hey Dark Cygnus. It seems like you changed my post, why'd you do that? He's running for a local city council office, not a corporate position.
– Pelican
2 days ago
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Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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(cont.) for more reference, I encourage you to take our tour so you get up to speed to how this site works and start to know your ways here. I also suggest you take a read at what to ask and what to not ask as a guide to writing good, on-topic questions, so your posts are received positively. Welcome to The Workplace
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?
– alroc
2 days ago
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Where do you live? Do you happen to work for the government? Where I live it is illegal to do any sort of campaigning at work if you work for the government.
– David K
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My coworker knows that I live in "his district" and he's been coming up to my desk for the past few days asking me to sign his petition to run for local office. Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party. I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone.
So far I've been getting away with saying I can't currently sign it - I'll get up and pretend to have a meeting or a phone call. I'd like his harassment to stop, so how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
communication colleagues harassment
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My coworker knows that I live in "his district" and he's been coming up to my desk for the past few days asking me to sign his petition to run for local office. Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party. I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone.
So far I've been getting away with saying I can't currently sign it - I'll get up and pretend to have a meeting or a phone call. I'd like his harassment to stop, so how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
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Hey Dark Cygnus. It seems like you changed my post, why'd you do that? He's running for a local city council office, not a corporate position.
– Pelican
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Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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(cont.) for more reference, I encourage you to take our tour so you get up to speed to how this site works and start to know your ways here. I also suggest you take a read at what to ask and what to not ask as a guide to writing good, on-topic questions, so your posts are received positively. Welcome to The Workplace
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?
– alroc
2 days ago
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Where do you live? Do you happen to work for the government? Where I live it is illegal to do any sort of campaigning at work if you work for the government.
– David K
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Hey Dark Cygnus. It seems like you changed my post, why'd you do that? He's running for a local city council office, not a corporate position.
– Pelican
2 days ago
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Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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(cont.) for more reference, I encourage you to take our tour so you get up to speed to how this site works and start to know your ways here. I also suggest you take a read at what to ask and what to not ask as a guide to writing good, on-topic questions, so your posts are received positively. Welcome to The Workplace
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?
– alroc
2 days ago
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Where do you live? Do you happen to work for the government? Where I live it is illegal to do any sort of campaigning at work if you work for the government.
– David K
2 days ago
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Hey Dark Cygnus. It seems like you changed my post, why'd you do that? He's running for a local city council office, not a corporate position.
– Pelican
2 days ago
Hey Dark Cygnus. It seems like you changed my post, why'd you do that? He's running for a local city council office, not a corporate position.
– Pelican
2 days ago
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Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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(cont.) for more reference, I encourage you to take our tour so you get up to speed to how this site works and start to know your ways here. I also suggest you take a read at what to ask and what to not ask as a guide to writing good, on-topic questions, so your posts are received positively. Welcome to The Workplace
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
(cont.) for more reference, I encourage you to take our tour so you get up to speed to how this site works and start to know your ways here. I also suggest you take a read at what to ask and what to not ask as a guide to writing good, on-topic questions, so your posts are received positively. Welcome to The Workplace
– DarkCygnus
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Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?
– alroc
2 days ago
Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?
– alroc
2 days ago
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Where do you live? Do you happen to work for the government? Where I live it is illegal to do any sort of campaigning at work if you work for the government.
– David K
2 days ago
Where do you live? Do you happen to work for the government? Where I live it is illegal to do any sort of campaigning at work if you work for the government.
– David K
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Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!
In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):
Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:
Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.
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Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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Don't even say that you want to avoid mixing work and politics. Just say "No."
– EvilSnack
2 days ago
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@jpmc26 OP said "I don't want to bring political views into work though". To me that indicates he wouldn't sign opposing petitions either, since OP doesn't want to be involved with any politics at work.
– Gertsen
2 days ago
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This is excellent. The one thing that I'd add is that if the coworker claims that you implied that you'd sign, lead with "I'm sorry I gave that impression, but..."
– Arcanist Lupus
2 days ago
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"Don't explain yourself"... This is a lesson i need to learn.
– moonheart08
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Just say:
No, thanks. But good luck!
That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.
No, thanks.
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I think this might be more appropriate than the "I don't mix work and politics" which will come back and hunt you when you sign something that you do agree with. And wishing somebody well regardless of his political standpoint is always OK.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
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@jmpc26 Only after saying the word "No" first. It is important that it is the first word that prefaces everything else, as it is the clearest possible statement of intent. This is a situation where clarity should be favored over politeness, because politeness has already failed.
– Joe
2 days ago
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Politeness is nice but clarity should always be your primary goal when communicating.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can always clarify later. But if you offend someone it is a lot harder to clean up the mess.
– LN6595
2 days ago
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@LN6595 That's why it can be so complicated, but trying not to offend people should never be an excuse to be unclear (even if you can "always clarify later") because, if so, you've straight up failed at communicating and may as well have said nothing at all.
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You have already tried politeness. Politeness has failed. Now is the time for clarity. You must give the clearest answer you can. The best way to do that is to use a magic word:
No.
There are three rules for using this magic word in this context:
- You must say "No."
- "No" must be the first word of the sentence.
- "No" said by itself, is a complete sentence.
So, the best answer to the repeated question is:
No.
If this is too impolite for you, you may offer whatever polite filler phrases you wish, after you have said "No", like this:
No, thank you.
No, I don't want to do that.
No, I don't mix business and politics.
No, but good luck.
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I love it when people are direct! +1 for you, good sir. Do not leave room for mis-interpretation and do not leave 'whatever' open for "reading between the lines". "No" is a valid answer and more and more people are in need of getting face to face with it. :-)
– rkeet
2 days ago
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Welcome to SE! This is a terrific answer, broadly applicable, and I will use it as a basis for teaching my children to be assertive. Thank you!
– dotancohen
2 days ago
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Thanks Joe - this is exactly what I would've answered. "No." with a smile.
– Mikey
2 days ago
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I would argue against simply saying "no"--in most contexts (in the US at least), that would be seen as very rude (I'm not saying that's the intent, but it would be received that way by most people). In my answer I say not to explain yourself, but technically some explanation is always expected, but don't go beyond this. Your #3 hits the mark. Without that, the hearer will either wait for the explanation, or will ask for it. The first question in their mind will be "Why?". But don't offer explanation as to why you don't mix politics and business, just state it firmly and politely.
– bob
yesterday
@dotancohen My father used this as the basis for teaching me to be assertive, so I can attest that the technique is highly effective as a parenting strategy.
– Joe
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What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.
By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.
So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
You say "I won't ever sign it".
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I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.
– Monica Cellio♦
2 days ago
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@MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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@MonicaCellio saying that you keep work and politics separate may make him ask you to discuss it outside of work. It at the very least would lead him to believe there is a possibility of convincing you (that's what I would think if someone said that to me, even after reading your comment). I think that's way to unclear to get the job done, but I agree with the point you're making.
– user87779
2 days ago
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@user87779 It's at that point you should say "We are coworkers, and that would go against my policy of keeping work and politics separate." Just because you're outside work, it doesn't fully remove that connection. You would still work together.
– JMac
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Something like this might work:
I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.
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This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.
– Upper_Case
2 days ago
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You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.
– alephzero
2 days ago
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@Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."
– Aaron
2 days ago
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@Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).
– Aaron
2 days ago
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Too much explaining, and it's missing the most important word, which is "No."
– Joe
2 days ago
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I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.
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I would upvote a second time if I could for the tactful tip. Welcome to The Workplace.
– bruglesco
2 days ago
Fortunately I have not worked in such a work place. A company is one of the main places where you meet different people and a perfect place to share views. I would call that kind of policy pure censorship. They don't own you or anything; they are paying you to do a job. As long as it doesn't interfere with that - or the personal freedom of the other employees - the company should not interfere.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
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@MaartenBodewes at least in the US, an employer would be well within their rights to have a policy of "you can't campaign for political office using company resources or within the office". Especially if there's a subordinate/supervisor relationship involved in the campaigning. Employees may fear retribution for refusing to support another employee's candidacy, and an employee who got fired for not supporting a political campaign not related to the company's business would likely have a case for wrongful termination.
– alroc
2 days ago
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And in this case it sounds like the candidate is already known to be a bully, so all the more reason to protect people from his interference
– George M
yesterday
@MaartenBodewes: If the workplace is governmental or does alot of work for a government, it will almost certainly be required to prevent corruption.
– K.A
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You say
Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party.
But these are not mutually exclusive things. You could sign his petition and vote for the opposing party anyway right?
Signing his petition is helping this guy get elected. I'd guess that the OP really meant he doesn't want to help this guy get elected, (as opposed to only caring about voting in the election) so signing the petition would be directly opposed to his goals.
– Patrick M
yesterday
In some places you have to be the same party as the person who's petition your signing or it doesn't count. For instance, a Republican running may need to get 1000 registered republican signatures from their town to be listed on the ballot. If you are not of the same party, your signature may not count anyway. If this is the case, you could say, I don't believe my signature would count, but good luck anyway
– alpha1
23 hours ago
@PatrickM : sign the petition, then put up a yard sign for his opponent? (assuming he doesn't know exactly where you live) And make sure to tell all of your neighbors about what a terrible choice that other candidate would be, who you know because you work with him.
– Joe
11 hours ago
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It depends on the district whether signing the candidate's petition is an endorsement of their candidacy (a nomination) or just their eligibility. I'm a member of my local school board, and my petition requires three nominators and ten “signatories.” The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot" and the latter say "I certify that the candidate is legally eligible to hold the office they're running for."
If you think the person is a decent human being, and deserves a shot to put their name before the voters, then I don't see any ideological dilemma between certifying their eligibility and then voting against them. A rational, independent voter would be able to say in one month, “Yes, he's capable of the job and deserves to be considered,” and then later, “But I prefer somebody else.” If he is asking you to nominate him, though, then you probably shouldn't.
If you're going to say no, just say no. “I'd rather not mix work and politics, if that's OK with you.” [Not that it matters whether it's OK with him.] The guy should be able to take a hint. After all, if he's going to run, he'd better have more friends in the community than you to ask to sign his petition.
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Your "no" needs to be assertive. "I'd rather not" and "if that's OK with you" leaves room for the person asking to press more. A simple "No, I don't mix work relationships and politics" is all that's needed.
– alroc
2 days ago
@alroc: I agree, you need to be assertive. I think there's a way to do that without being blunt and making the conversation more awkward then necessary. After all, you need to keep working congenially with the person. Your face and tone of voice can show your true intent while your choice of words softens the blow.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
"The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot"" So the nominations endorse the candidate and the endorsements certify eligibility?
– Acccumulation
yesterday
@Acccumulation: you're right, I'm using endorse formally and informally in the same paragraph. I'll revise.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
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I will have to contradict the other answers.
A petition does not indicate support of the candidate. It indicates your support that the candidate ought to be on the ballot. Those are two very different things. (I'm assuming that this is a ballot access petition.)
Taking this position removes all concerns from the equation. You are not supporting this individual's positions. You are supporting open expression and having a wider range of voices to be placed on the ballot - that being the case you are not involving yourself in politics except to the extent that you declare yourself in favor of a vibrant election process.
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If he wins, then I'd feel like an idiot for having helped him to his goal. Yeah, no, I would have to go with the others who say don't sign!
– Blisterpeanuts
21 hours ago
@Blisterpeanuts - I'm a free-market libertarian and have often signed petitions for the Green and Democratic Socialist parties. If your coworker had a real shot of winning he would have a staff that collect signatures. But, if that concerns you then you are correct and don't sign.
– Mayo
21 hours ago
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'I'm in a bit of a quandry here. On a personal level, I'm sure you'd be an excellent candidate. But I actually support the other lot! Would you let me off?'
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Do not recommend if the person is aggressive about their political views.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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this is the most adorably British thing I've read
– Bryan Boettcher
yesterday
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Go to your management and let them know. Your co-worker is using company time and resources to promote himself to a political office which is almost definitely against their policy, or at least is improper workplace behavior if not outright harassment. You may phrase it diplomatically:
My coworker has repeatedly asked me to sign a petition to promote his political campaign. I am uncomfortable with people pressing their politics on me in the office. I don't wish to turn this into a major incident, but perhaps my coworker's management could let him know that his actions are not universally appreciated and might be against company policy.
Probably nothing will be done right away, but your complaint will at least be noted, and if your coworker retaliates against you for refusing to sign his petition, you will have put in place a basis for him to be fired. "Remember when I came to you last month? Just as I feared, he became enraged when I did not sign his petition and has been saying nasty things about me in the lunch room."
It's unfortunate that some people are too self-centered and narcissistic to realize the impact of their actions on others. It's doubly unfortunate that you have to work with this person. Your first loyalty is to yourself and the security of your job and livelihood, so take appropriate preventative measures now and not become a victim of his bullying later on.
I have seen this kind of behavior many times in my career and rarely do people respond well to moral persuasion in the workplace. Usually, it is only the threat to their direct self-interest, e.g. their job, that convinces them to back off. However, usually employers don't have the patience to be forgiving, unless he's some kind of super-star employee whom they can't afford to fire, and those are very very rare!
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Depending on the workplace (and the politics), I wouldn't be surprised if action get taken quicker than you think - it's not really in management's interest to have an employee running his campaign on company time.
– Allen Gould
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
Typically when running for a public office, it's best to get approval from HR so they know you're doing it. If he didn't, then he might have issues. As I was on a government contract that kept getting passed off between companies (getting bought out, recompete won by another company, that one getting bought out, then trying to sell themselves), I had to deal with it multiple times. There were always strict rules about keeping my two jobs separate, and only caused problems w/ the one trying to sell themselves (and trying to get me to sign a badly worded non-compete)
– Joe
12 hours ago
@LassiKinnunen : you'd be surprised. Companies of a certain size like knowing that there are people in public office who might take their side on things. (which would be a conflict of interest, and the official should recuse themselves on ... but they still like it). Some also look it as a form of community service, depending on the type of elected position.
– Joe
12 hours ago
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Don't view it as humiliating or something to have to avoid. It's as simple as:
Thanks, coworker, but I'm not interested. I really wish you the best in your political affairs.
There is nothing to be ashamed of. There is nothing to gossip about. Political views don't need to be taboo. Just don't over-emphasize the fact that you don't agree with his political stance. It's always as simple as,
I'm not interested, but thank you for considering me.
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This is not about you, it is about him. Assuming that signing does not constitute making an endorsement or require that you join his party or anything, then refusing to sign it when you know he meets the residency requirements is really just a selfish way of making his project about you.
Keep it about him and stay classy by signing his papers. It might even help motivate you to go out and vote when the time comes - for his opponent of course.
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If you really need an answer that will get you out of it- tell him you're not registered to vote. People who aren't registered don't count for signatures, so yours would hurt him instead of help.
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Unless OP is registered to vote. Lying is not a good solution.
– Seth R
17 hours ago
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@SethR Lying is a perfectly good solution when its none of their business to begin with. You have no obligation to be truthful to people if your intent isn't to defraud.
– Gabe Sechan
17 hours ago
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The whole thing isn't about signing. It's about how to fight someone who is trying to coerce you with fear to doing something they want, without triggering them off.
If you know your boss would be against this, mention it to him or somehow troll him to ask you for the signature while in his presence. The point is to just CYA for after when he realizes that you don't want to sign for him and are therefore marked as an enemy by a toxic person. This is solely for that your boss has some chance to realize why he would have started badmouthing you suddenly.
You could also just sign it, you can still mention it to your boss that he is going around asking for signatures. It is very unlikely to make any difference and it's fairly unlikely anyone is going to go through the signatures to single you out for your political preference. The reason I say it's very unlikely to make any difference is that if he is struggling to get enough signatures he is very unlikely to get enough votes in the actual election, making it all just a huge waste of time.
The question boils down to how to decline an aggressive persuasion without angering the person - when his persuasion tactic is basically that if you don't agree he will get angry. He will use things like arguing that you lose nothing by signing it. As you've already gone the play time route you have kind of lost the golden chance of using deflection, making a decline and telling him what he should be doing instead: going to the mall, city square or whatever it is where the elderly hang out to ask for signatures from the elderly. Because that's how you get signatures. not by harassing your coworkers.
The whole point of the deflection would be to make them feel like you helped them despite declining on the thing they were asking you to do. That explicit advice would help their chances though so it has that downside.
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Tell him that you are sorry, but that you do not get involved in politics at work, and that doesn't like political, sales or religious solicitation on the job.
That's all you need to say without being impolite. If he doesn't get it and continues with his soliciting, then he's the impolite one.
It's ok to worry about being polite, but worry more about your well being. Do you want to be seen as being part of political solicitation at work?
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Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!
In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):
Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:
Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.
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Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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Don't even say that you want to avoid mixing work and politics. Just say "No."
– EvilSnack
2 days ago
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@jpmc26 OP said "I don't want to bring political views into work though". To me that indicates he wouldn't sign opposing petitions either, since OP doesn't want to be involved with any politics at work.
– Gertsen
2 days ago
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This is excellent. The one thing that I'd add is that if the coworker claims that you implied that you'd sign, lead with "I'm sorry I gave that impression, but..."
– Arcanist Lupus
2 days ago
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"Don't explain yourself"... This is a lesson i need to learn.
– moonheart08
yesterday
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Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!
In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):
Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:
Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.
7
Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
53
Don't even say that you want to avoid mixing work and politics. Just say "No."
– EvilSnack
2 days ago
22
@jpmc26 OP said "I don't want to bring political views into work though". To me that indicates he wouldn't sign opposing petitions either, since OP doesn't want to be involved with any politics at work.
– Gertsen
2 days ago
4
This is excellent. The one thing that I'd add is that if the coworker claims that you implied that you'd sign, lead with "I'm sorry I gave that impression, but..."
– Arcanist Lupus
2 days ago
12
"Don't explain yourself"... This is a lesson i need to learn.
– moonheart08
yesterday
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show 7 more comments
Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!
In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):
Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:
Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.
Be firm and polite, but above all else don't explain yourself!
In this situation explanations invite argument and risk hurt feelings. Avoiding them is best. Instead simply state your policy in an emotionally neutral way (and of course make sure you consistently apply this policy):
Thanks, but my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If you feel additional explanation is needed since you initially implied you might sign it, you could say this the first time, and use the line above every subsequent time:
Thanks, but after some thought, my policy is to avoid mixing work and politics.
If pressed repeat this with a smile every single time. If the coworker doesn't get the hint, escalate the problem (privately) to your manager.
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Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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Don't even say that you want to avoid mixing work and politics. Just say "No."
– EvilSnack
2 days ago
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@jpmc26 OP said "I don't want to bring political views into work though". To me that indicates he wouldn't sign opposing petitions either, since OP doesn't want to be involved with any politics at work.
– Gertsen
2 days ago
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This is excellent. The one thing that I'd add is that if the coworker claims that you implied that you'd sign, lead with "I'm sorry I gave that impression, but..."
– Arcanist Lupus
2 days ago
12
"Don't explain yourself"... This is a lesson i need to learn.
– moonheart08
yesterday
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Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
53
Don't even say that you want to avoid mixing work and politics. Just say "No."
– EvilSnack
2 days ago
22
@jpmc26 OP said "I don't want to bring political views into work though". To me that indicates he wouldn't sign opposing petitions either, since OP doesn't want to be involved with any politics at work.
– Gertsen
2 days ago
4
This is excellent. The one thing that I'd add is that if the coworker claims that you implied that you'd sign, lead with "I'm sorry I gave that impression, but..."
– Arcanist Lupus
2 days ago
12
"Don't explain yourself"... This is a lesson i need to learn.
– moonheart08
yesterday
7
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Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
Stating it's "their policy" is explaining. In this case, it's also lying about the reason. They don't want to discuss the matter or explain explicitly that it's due to opposing views. I see nothing in the question that implies they would hesitate to sign it if they agreed with the person.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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Don't even say that you want to avoid mixing work and politics. Just say "No."
– EvilSnack
2 days ago
Don't even say that you want to avoid mixing work and politics. Just say "No."
– EvilSnack
2 days ago
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@jpmc26 OP said "I don't want to bring political views into work though". To me that indicates he wouldn't sign opposing petitions either, since OP doesn't want to be involved with any politics at work.
– Gertsen
2 days ago
@jpmc26 OP said "I don't want to bring political views into work though". To me that indicates he wouldn't sign opposing petitions either, since OP doesn't want to be involved with any politics at work.
– Gertsen
2 days ago
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This is excellent. The one thing that I'd add is that if the coworker claims that you implied that you'd sign, lead with "I'm sorry I gave that impression, but..."
– Arcanist Lupus
2 days ago
This is excellent. The one thing that I'd add is that if the coworker claims that you implied that you'd sign, lead with "I'm sorry I gave that impression, but..."
– Arcanist Lupus
2 days ago
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"Don't explain yourself"... This is a lesson i need to learn.
– moonheart08
yesterday
"Don't explain yourself"... This is a lesson i need to learn.
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Just say:
No, thanks. But good luck!
That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.
No, thanks.
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I think this might be more appropriate than the "I don't mix work and politics" which will come back and hunt you when you sign something that you do agree with. And wishing somebody well regardless of his political standpoint is always OK.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
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@jmpc26 Only after saying the word "No" first. It is important that it is the first word that prefaces everything else, as it is the clearest possible statement of intent. This is a situation where clarity should be favored over politeness, because politeness has already failed.
– Joe
2 days ago
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Politeness is nice but clarity should always be your primary goal when communicating.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can always clarify later. But if you offend someone it is a lot harder to clean up the mess.
– LN6595
2 days ago
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@LN6595 That's why it can be so complicated, but trying not to offend people should never be an excuse to be unclear (even if you can "always clarify later") because, if so, you've straight up failed at communicating and may as well have said nothing at all.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
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Just say:
No, thanks. But good luck!
That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.
No, thanks.
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I think this might be more appropriate than the "I don't mix work and politics" which will come back and hunt you when you sign something that you do agree with. And wishing somebody well regardless of his political standpoint is always OK.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
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@jmpc26 Only after saying the word "No" first. It is important that it is the first word that prefaces everything else, as it is the clearest possible statement of intent. This is a situation where clarity should be favored over politeness, because politeness has already failed.
– Joe
2 days ago
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Politeness is nice but clarity should always be your primary goal when communicating.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can always clarify later. But if you offend someone it is a lot harder to clean up the mess.
– LN6595
2 days ago
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@LN6595 That's why it can be so complicated, but trying not to offend people should never be an excuse to be unclear (even if you can "always clarify later") because, if so, you've straight up failed at communicating and may as well have said nothing at all.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
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Just say:
No, thanks. But good luck!
That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.
No, thanks.
Just say:
No, thanks. But good luck!
That's it! You do not owe an explanation, nor is an explanation going to help. You just open yourself up to counter-arguments.
No, thanks.
answered 2 days ago
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I think this might be more appropriate than the "I don't mix work and politics" which will come back and hunt you when you sign something that you do agree with. And wishing somebody well regardless of his political standpoint is always OK.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
11
@jmpc26 Only after saying the word "No" first. It is important that it is the first word that prefaces everything else, as it is the clearest possible statement of intent. This is a situation where clarity should be favored over politeness, because politeness has already failed.
– Joe
2 days ago
1
Politeness is nice but clarity should always be your primary goal when communicating.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
2
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can always clarify later. But if you offend someone it is a lot harder to clean up the mess.
– LN6595
2 days ago
3
@LN6595 That's why it can be so complicated, but trying not to offend people should never be an excuse to be unclear (even if you can "always clarify later") because, if so, you've straight up failed at communicating and may as well have said nothing at all.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
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I think this might be more appropriate than the "I don't mix work and politics" which will come back and hunt you when you sign something that you do agree with. And wishing somebody well regardless of his political standpoint is always OK.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
11
@jmpc26 Only after saying the word "No" first. It is important that it is the first word that prefaces everything else, as it is the clearest possible statement of intent. This is a situation where clarity should be favored over politeness, because politeness has already failed.
– Joe
2 days ago
1
Politeness is nice but clarity should always be your primary goal when communicating.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
2
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can always clarify later. But if you offend someone it is a lot harder to clean up the mess.
– LN6595
2 days ago
3
@LN6595 That's why it can be so complicated, but trying not to offend people should never be an excuse to be unclear (even if you can "always clarify later") because, if so, you've straight up failed at communicating and may as well have said nothing at all.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
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I think this might be more appropriate than the "I don't mix work and politics" which will come back and hunt you when you sign something that you do agree with. And wishing somebody well regardless of his political standpoint is always OK.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
I think this might be more appropriate than the "I don't mix work and politics" which will come back and hunt you when you sign something that you do agree with. And wishing somebody well regardless of his political standpoint is always OK.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
11
11
@jmpc26 Only after saying the word "No" first. It is important that it is the first word that prefaces everything else, as it is the clearest possible statement of intent. This is a situation where clarity should be favored over politeness, because politeness has already failed.
– Joe
2 days ago
@jmpc26 Only after saying the word "No" first. It is important that it is the first word that prefaces everything else, as it is the clearest possible statement of intent. This is a situation where clarity should be favored over politeness, because politeness has already failed.
– Joe
2 days ago
1
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Politeness is nice but clarity should always be your primary goal when communicating.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
Politeness is nice but clarity should always be your primary goal when communicating.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
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@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can always clarify later. But if you offend someone it is a lot harder to clean up the mess.
– LN6595
2 days ago
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can always clarify later. But if you offend someone it is a lot harder to clean up the mess.
– LN6595
2 days ago
3
3
@LN6595 That's why it can be so complicated, but trying not to offend people should never be an excuse to be unclear (even if you can "always clarify later") because, if so, you've straight up failed at communicating and may as well have said nothing at all.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
2 days ago
@LN6595 That's why it can be so complicated, but trying not to offend people should never be an excuse to be unclear (even if you can "always clarify later") because, if so, you've straight up failed at communicating and may as well have said nothing at all.
– Lightness Races in Orbit
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You have already tried politeness. Politeness has failed. Now is the time for clarity. You must give the clearest answer you can. The best way to do that is to use a magic word:
No.
There are three rules for using this magic word in this context:
- You must say "No."
- "No" must be the first word of the sentence.
- "No" said by itself, is a complete sentence.
So, the best answer to the repeated question is:
No.
If this is too impolite for you, you may offer whatever polite filler phrases you wish, after you have said "No", like this:
No, thank you.
No, I don't want to do that.
No, I don't mix business and politics.
No, but good luck.
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I love it when people are direct! +1 for you, good sir. Do not leave room for mis-interpretation and do not leave 'whatever' open for "reading between the lines". "No" is a valid answer and more and more people are in need of getting face to face with it. :-)
– rkeet
2 days ago
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Welcome to SE! This is a terrific answer, broadly applicable, and I will use it as a basis for teaching my children to be assertive. Thank you!
– dotancohen
2 days ago
1
Thanks Joe - this is exactly what I would've answered. "No." with a smile.
– Mikey
2 days ago
3
I would argue against simply saying "no"--in most contexts (in the US at least), that would be seen as very rude (I'm not saying that's the intent, but it would be received that way by most people). In my answer I say not to explain yourself, but technically some explanation is always expected, but don't go beyond this. Your #3 hits the mark. Without that, the hearer will either wait for the explanation, or will ask for it. The first question in their mind will be "Why?". But don't offer explanation as to why you don't mix politics and business, just state it firmly and politely.
– bob
yesterday
@dotancohen My father used this as the basis for teaching me to be assertive, so I can attest that the technique is highly effective as a parenting strategy.
– Joe
yesterday
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You have already tried politeness. Politeness has failed. Now is the time for clarity. You must give the clearest answer you can. The best way to do that is to use a magic word:
No.
There are three rules for using this magic word in this context:
- You must say "No."
- "No" must be the first word of the sentence.
- "No" said by itself, is a complete sentence.
So, the best answer to the repeated question is:
No.
If this is too impolite for you, you may offer whatever polite filler phrases you wish, after you have said "No", like this:
No, thank you.
No, I don't want to do that.
No, I don't mix business and politics.
No, but good luck.
New contributor
2
I love it when people are direct! +1 for you, good sir. Do not leave room for mis-interpretation and do not leave 'whatever' open for "reading between the lines". "No" is a valid answer and more and more people are in need of getting face to face with it. :-)
– rkeet
2 days ago
3
Welcome to SE! This is a terrific answer, broadly applicable, and I will use it as a basis for teaching my children to be assertive. Thank you!
– dotancohen
2 days ago
1
Thanks Joe - this is exactly what I would've answered. "No." with a smile.
– Mikey
2 days ago
3
I would argue against simply saying "no"--in most contexts (in the US at least), that would be seen as very rude (I'm not saying that's the intent, but it would be received that way by most people). In my answer I say not to explain yourself, but technically some explanation is always expected, but don't go beyond this. Your #3 hits the mark. Without that, the hearer will either wait for the explanation, or will ask for it. The first question in their mind will be "Why?". But don't offer explanation as to why you don't mix politics and business, just state it firmly and politely.
– bob
yesterday
@dotancohen My father used this as the basis for teaching me to be assertive, so I can attest that the technique is highly effective as a parenting strategy.
– Joe
yesterday
add a comment |
You have already tried politeness. Politeness has failed. Now is the time for clarity. You must give the clearest answer you can. The best way to do that is to use a magic word:
No.
There are three rules for using this magic word in this context:
- You must say "No."
- "No" must be the first word of the sentence.
- "No" said by itself, is a complete sentence.
So, the best answer to the repeated question is:
No.
If this is too impolite for you, you may offer whatever polite filler phrases you wish, after you have said "No", like this:
No, thank you.
No, I don't want to do that.
No, I don't mix business and politics.
No, but good luck.
New contributor
You have already tried politeness. Politeness has failed. Now is the time for clarity. You must give the clearest answer you can. The best way to do that is to use a magic word:
No.
There are three rules for using this magic word in this context:
- You must say "No."
- "No" must be the first word of the sentence.
- "No" said by itself, is a complete sentence.
So, the best answer to the repeated question is:
No.
If this is too impolite for you, you may offer whatever polite filler phrases you wish, after you have said "No", like this:
No, thank you.
No, I don't want to do that.
No, I don't mix business and politics.
No, but good luck.
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I love it when people are direct! +1 for you, good sir. Do not leave room for mis-interpretation and do not leave 'whatever' open for "reading between the lines". "No" is a valid answer and more and more people are in need of getting face to face with it. :-)
– rkeet
2 days ago
3
Welcome to SE! This is a terrific answer, broadly applicable, and I will use it as a basis for teaching my children to be assertive. Thank you!
– dotancohen
2 days ago
1
Thanks Joe - this is exactly what I would've answered. "No." with a smile.
– Mikey
2 days ago
3
I would argue against simply saying "no"--in most contexts (in the US at least), that would be seen as very rude (I'm not saying that's the intent, but it would be received that way by most people). In my answer I say not to explain yourself, but technically some explanation is always expected, but don't go beyond this. Your #3 hits the mark. Without that, the hearer will either wait for the explanation, or will ask for it. The first question in their mind will be "Why?". But don't offer explanation as to why you don't mix politics and business, just state it firmly and politely.
– bob
yesterday
@dotancohen My father used this as the basis for teaching me to be assertive, so I can attest that the technique is highly effective as a parenting strategy.
– Joe
yesterday
add a comment |
2
I love it when people are direct! +1 for you, good sir. Do not leave room for mis-interpretation and do not leave 'whatever' open for "reading between the lines". "No" is a valid answer and more and more people are in need of getting face to face with it. :-)
– rkeet
2 days ago
3
Welcome to SE! This is a terrific answer, broadly applicable, and I will use it as a basis for teaching my children to be assertive. Thank you!
– dotancohen
2 days ago
1
Thanks Joe - this is exactly what I would've answered. "No." with a smile.
– Mikey
2 days ago
3
I would argue against simply saying "no"--in most contexts (in the US at least), that would be seen as very rude (I'm not saying that's the intent, but it would be received that way by most people). In my answer I say not to explain yourself, but technically some explanation is always expected, but don't go beyond this. Your #3 hits the mark. Without that, the hearer will either wait for the explanation, or will ask for it. The first question in their mind will be "Why?". But don't offer explanation as to why you don't mix politics and business, just state it firmly and politely.
– bob
yesterday
@dotancohen My father used this as the basis for teaching me to be assertive, so I can attest that the technique is highly effective as a parenting strategy.
– Joe
yesterday
2
2
I love it when people are direct! +1 for you, good sir. Do not leave room for mis-interpretation and do not leave 'whatever' open for "reading between the lines". "No" is a valid answer and more and more people are in need of getting face to face with it. :-)
– rkeet
2 days ago
I love it when people are direct! +1 for you, good sir. Do not leave room for mis-interpretation and do not leave 'whatever' open for "reading between the lines". "No" is a valid answer and more and more people are in need of getting face to face with it. :-)
– rkeet
2 days ago
3
3
Welcome to SE! This is a terrific answer, broadly applicable, and I will use it as a basis for teaching my children to be assertive. Thank you!
– dotancohen
2 days ago
Welcome to SE! This is a terrific answer, broadly applicable, and I will use it as a basis for teaching my children to be assertive. Thank you!
– dotancohen
2 days ago
1
1
Thanks Joe - this is exactly what I would've answered. "No." with a smile.
– Mikey
2 days ago
Thanks Joe - this is exactly what I would've answered. "No." with a smile.
– Mikey
2 days ago
3
3
I would argue against simply saying "no"--in most contexts (in the US at least), that would be seen as very rude (I'm not saying that's the intent, but it would be received that way by most people). In my answer I say not to explain yourself, but technically some explanation is always expected, but don't go beyond this. Your #3 hits the mark. Without that, the hearer will either wait for the explanation, or will ask for it. The first question in their mind will be "Why?". But don't offer explanation as to why you don't mix politics and business, just state it firmly and politely.
– bob
yesterday
I would argue against simply saying "no"--in most contexts (in the US at least), that would be seen as very rude (I'm not saying that's the intent, but it would be received that way by most people). In my answer I say not to explain yourself, but technically some explanation is always expected, but don't go beyond this. Your #3 hits the mark. Without that, the hearer will either wait for the explanation, or will ask for it. The first question in their mind will be "Why?". But don't offer explanation as to why you don't mix politics and business, just state it firmly and politely.
– bob
yesterday
@dotancohen My father used this as the basis for teaching me to be assertive, so I can attest that the technique is highly effective as a parenting strategy.
– Joe
yesterday
@dotancohen My father used this as the basis for teaching me to be assertive, so I can attest that the technique is highly effective as a parenting strategy.
– Joe
yesterday
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What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.
By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.
So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
You say "I won't ever sign it".
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I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.
– Monica Cellio♦
2 days ago
6
@MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
1
@MonicaCellio saying that you keep work and politics separate may make him ask you to discuss it outside of work. It at the very least would lead him to believe there is a possibility of convincing you (that's what I would think if someone said that to me, even after reading your comment). I think that's way to unclear to get the job done, but I agree with the point you're making.
– user87779
2 days ago
1
@user87779 It's at that point you should say "We are coworkers, and that would go against my policy of keeping work and politics separate." Just because you're outside work, it doesn't fully remove that connection. You would still work together.
– JMac
2 days ago
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What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.
By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.
So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
You say "I won't ever sign it".
6
I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
24
I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.
– Monica Cellio♦
2 days ago
6
@MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
1
@MonicaCellio saying that you keep work and politics separate may make him ask you to discuss it outside of work. It at the very least would lead him to believe there is a possibility of convincing you (that's what I would think if someone said that to me, even after reading your comment). I think that's way to unclear to get the job done, but I agree with the point you're making.
– user87779
2 days ago
1
@user87779 It's at that point you should say "We are coworkers, and that would go against my policy of keeping work and politics separate." Just because you're outside work, it doesn't fully remove that connection. You would still work together.
– JMac
2 days ago
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What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.
By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.
So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
You say "I won't ever sign it".
What you did is a mistake. Psychologically, if you give people hope they will try harder. It would have been much more polite to say the first time you were approached "there is no way I will sign for this, because I'm totally opposed to your politics". That way, he could have gone away without wasting his time on you.
By saying "not now" you invite him to come back to you and try again, which just causes agony for both of you.
So how should I go about saying that I won't ever sign it?
You say "I won't ever sign it".
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I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
24
I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.
– Monica Cellio♦
2 days ago
6
@MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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@MonicaCellio saying that you keep work and politics separate may make him ask you to discuss it outside of work. It at the very least would lead him to believe there is a possibility of convincing you (that's what I would think if someone said that to me, even after reading your comment). I think that's way to unclear to get the job done, but I agree with the point you're making.
– user87779
2 days ago
1
@user87779 It's at that point you should say "We are coworkers, and that would go against my policy of keeping work and politics separate." Just because you're outside work, it doesn't fully remove that connection. You would still work together.
– JMac
2 days ago
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show 2 more comments
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I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
24
I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.
– Monica Cellio♦
2 days ago
6
@MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
1
@MonicaCellio saying that you keep work and politics separate may make him ask you to discuss it outside of work. It at the very least would lead him to believe there is a possibility of convincing you (that's what I would think if someone said that to me, even after reading your comment). I think that's way to unclear to get the job done, but I agree with the point you're making.
– user87779
2 days ago
1
@user87779 It's at that point you should say "We are coworkers, and that would go against my policy of keeping work and politics separate." Just because you're outside work, it doesn't fully remove that connection. You would still work together.
– JMac
2 days ago
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6
I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
I agree with this answer in general. It's best to be clear since the first time this happened. However, I believe there are better ways to phrase it in a polite way, compared to a blunt (and perhaps a bit rude) "I won't ever sign it". Can you suggest alternative phrasings OP can use to decline this while being professional and polite?
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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24
I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.
– Monica Cellio♦
2 days ago
I agree on the approach, but if you say "I'm totally opposed to your politics" you invite more conversation. Consider changing that to "I keep work and politics separate" (which the OP said in the question), which shuts down attempts to persuade him of specific political views.
– Monica Cellio♦
2 days ago
6
6
@MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
@MonicaCellio That is not quite what they said. The question reads, "I don't want to bring political views into work though, especially since he's yelled at people and gossips with everyone," which reads to me more like, "I don't want to reveal my political views to this person or have a debate with them." We don't really know how they would respond if the person asking shared their views and no debate was likely to ensue.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
1
1
@MonicaCellio saying that you keep work and politics separate may make him ask you to discuss it outside of work. It at the very least would lead him to believe there is a possibility of convincing you (that's what I would think if someone said that to me, even after reading your comment). I think that's way to unclear to get the job done, but I agree with the point you're making.
– user87779
2 days ago
@MonicaCellio saying that you keep work and politics separate may make him ask you to discuss it outside of work. It at the very least would lead him to believe there is a possibility of convincing you (that's what I would think if someone said that to me, even after reading your comment). I think that's way to unclear to get the job done, but I agree with the point you're making.
– user87779
2 days ago
1
1
@user87779 It's at that point you should say "We are coworkers, and that would go against my policy of keeping work and politics separate." Just because you're outside work, it doesn't fully remove that connection. You would still work together.
– JMac
2 days ago
@user87779 It's at that point you should say "We are coworkers, and that would go against my policy of keeping work and politics separate." Just because you're outside work, it doesn't fully remove that connection. You would still work together.
– JMac
2 days ago
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Something like this might work:
I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.
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This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.
– Upper_Case
2 days ago
1
You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
@Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."
– Aaron
2 days ago
1
@Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).
– Aaron
2 days ago
4
Too much explaining, and it's missing the most important word, which is "No."
– Joe
2 days ago
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Something like this might work:
I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.
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This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.
– Upper_Case
2 days ago
1
You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
@Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."
– Aaron
2 days ago
1
@Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).
– Aaron
2 days ago
4
Too much explaining, and it's missing the most important word, which is "No."
– Joe
2 days ago
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Something like this might work:
I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.
Something like this might work:
I've been giving it some thought and I came to the conclusion that I don't want to mix work and politics. The truth is that in many areas I have very different political opinions to you and probably a fair few others in the office and I wouldn't want that to become a source of animosity between us, and for that reason, it would probably be better if I didn't sign this.
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This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.
– Upper_Case
2 days ago
1
You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
@Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."
– Aaron
2 days ago
1
@Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).
– Aaron
2 days ago
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Too much explaining, and it's missing the most important word, which is "No."
– Joe
2 days ago
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This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.
– Upper_Case
2 days ago
1
You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
@Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."
– Aaron
2 days ago
1
@Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).
– Aaron
2 days ago
4
Too much explaining, and it's missing the most important word, which is "No."
– Joe
2 days ago
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This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.
– Upper_Case
2 days ago
This makes my answer irrelevant! But I'd suggest cutting everything after the first sentence. The point of not bringing politics into the office is to avoid disagreements and unpleasantness; announcing political opposition to the coworker kind of forces that dynamic forward. Declining to mix work and politics should be enough to address the coworker and forestall any additional discussion.
– Upper_Case
2 days ago
1
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You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.
– alephzero
2 days ago
You don't need to bring in "mixing work and politics." Keep it simple, and just say you don't wish to be formally involved in politics, which you will be if you sign. In the UK, for example, the fact that you have signed (and your address, not just your name!) will be in the public domain as part of the electoral process. That will have consequences, whether you want it to or not.
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
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@Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."
– Aaron
2 days ago
@Upper_Case On the contrary, leaving it at "I don't want to mix work and politics" leaves the door open for the coworker to say "Oh ok, let's get lunch at Burger King together tomorrow and we can do it away from the office." or even more likely "Oh ok, you're right. I'll just stop by at your house on my own personal time like all the other politicians do when they go door-to-door."
– Aaron
2 days ago
1
1
@Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).
– Aaron
2 days ago
@Upper_Case You are saying what you think should be done based on logic. And your logic is good! Unfortunately, in this situation you need to throw your logic out the window. Unless you have reason to do otherwise, you should act on the assumption that anything that could go wrong will go wrong, especially when it comes to difficult interpersonal communication. So stop using your brain (said half tongue-in-cheek / half serious).
– Aaron
2 days ago
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Too much explaining, and it's missing the most important word, which is "No."
– Joe
2 days ago
Too much explaining, and it's missing the most important word, which is "No."
– Joe
2 days ago
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I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.
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I would upvote a second time if I could for the tactful tip. Welcome to The Workplace.
– bruglesco
2 days ago
Fortunately I have not worked in such a work place. A company is one of the main places where you meet different people and a perfect place to share views. I would call that kind of policy pure censorship. They don't own you or anything; they are paying you to do a job. As long as it doesn't interfere with that - or the personal freedom of the other employees - the company should not interfere.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
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@MaartenBodewes at least in the US, an employer would be well within their rights to have a policy of "you can't campaign for political office using company resources or within the office". Especially if there's a subordinate/supervisor relationship involved in the campaigning. Employees may fear retribution for refusing to support another employee's candidacy, and an employee who got fired for not supporting a political campaign not related to the company's business would likely have a case for wrongful termination.
– alroc
2 days ago
1
And in this case it sounds like the candidate is already known to be a bully, so all the more reason to protect people from his interference
– George M
yesterday
@MaartenBodewes: If the workplace is governmental or does alot of work for a government, it will almost certainly be required to prevent corruption.
– K.A
yesterday
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I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.
New contributor
I would upvote a second time if I could for the tactful tip. Welcome to The Workplace.
– bruglesco
2 days ago
Fortunately I have not worked in such a work place. A company is one of the main places where you meet different people and a perfect place to share views. I would call that kind of policy pure censorship. They don't own you or anything; they are paying you to do a job. As long as it doesn't interfere with that - or the personal freedom of the other employees - the company should not interfere.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
6
@MaartenBodewes at least in the US, an employer would be well within their rights to have a policy of "you can't campaign for political office using company resources or within the office". Especially if there's a subordinate/supervisor relationship involved in the campaigning. Employees may fear retribution for refusing to support another employee's candidacy, and an employee who got fired for not supporting a political campaign not related to the company's business would likely have a case for wrongful termination.
– alroc
2 days ago
1
And in this case it sounds like the candidate is already known to be a bully, so all the more reason to protect people from his interference
– George M
yesterday
@MaartenBodewes: If the workplace is governmental or does alot of work for a government, it will almost certainly be required to prevent corruption.
– K.A
yesterday
add a comment |
I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.
New contributor
I do not know what your work place is, but many have specific policies against bringing outside concerns or issues to work. I suggest checking any employee hand book, the terms of employment, asking Personnel or your local management. If they can provide a firm and public answer, you can point directly to it. Depending, you may be able to point it out to coworker before he asks you again. Done right, he ought to see it as a tactful help ("I just noticed this and don't want someone else to blow you in to HR") and end the issue on a positive note. Possibly this will save others from him too.
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I would upvote a second time if I could for the tactful tip. Welcome to The Workplace.
– bruglesco
2 days ago
Fortunately I have not worked in such a work place. A company is one of the main places where you meet different people and a perfect place to share views. I would call that kind of policy pure censorship. They don't own you or anything; they are paying you to do a job. As long as it doesn't interfere with that - or the personal freedom of the other employees - the company should not interfere.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
6
@MaartenBodewes at least in the US, an employer would be well within their rights to have a policy of "you can't campaign for political office using company resources or within the office". Especially if there's a subordinate/supervisor relationship involved in the campaigning. Employees may fear retribution for refusing to support another employee's candidacy, and an employee who got fired for not supporting a political campaign not related to the company's business would likely have a case for wrongful termination.
– alroc
2 days ago
1
And in this case it sounds like the candidate is already known to be a bully, so all the more reason to protect people from his interference
– George M
yesterday
@MaartenBodewes: If the workplace is governmental or does alot of work for a government, it will almost certainly be required to prevent corruption.
– K.A
yesterday
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I would upvote a second time if I could for the tactful tip. Welcome to The Workplace.
– bruglesco
2 days ago
Fortunately I have not worked in such a work place. A company is one of the main places where you meet different people and a perfect place to share views. I would call that kind of policy pure censorship. They don't own you or anything; they are paying you to do a job. As long as it doesn't interfere with that - or the personal freedom of the other employees - the company should not interfere.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
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@MaartenBodewes at least in the US, an employer would be well within their rights to have a policy of "you can't campaign for political office using company resources or within the office". Especially if there's a subordinate/supervisor relationship involved in the campaigning. Employees may fear retribution for refusing to support another employee's candidacy, and an employee who got fired for not supporting a political campaign not related to the company's business would likely have a case for wrongful termination.
– alroc
2 days ago
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And in this case it sounds like the candidate is already known to be a bully, so all the more reason to protect people from his interference
– George M
yesterday
@MaartenBodewes: If the workplace is governmental or does alot of work for a government, it will almost certainly be required to prevent corruption.
– K.A
yesterday
I would upvote a second time if I could for the tactful tip. Welcome to The Workplace.
– bruglesco
2 days ago
I would upvote a second time if I could for the tactful tip. Welcome to The Workplace.
– bruglesco
2 days ago
Fortunately I have not worked in such a work place. A company is one of the main places where you meet different people and a perfect place to share views. I would call that kind of policy pure censorship. They don't own you or anything; they are paying you to do a job. As long as it doesn't interfere with that - or the personal freedom of the other employees - the company should not interfere.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
Fortunately I have not worked in such a work place. A company is one of the main places where you meet different people and a perfect place to share views. I would call that kind of policy pure censorship. They don't own you or anything; they are paying you to do a job. As long as it doesn't interfere with that - or the personal freedom of the other employees - the company should not interfere.
– Maarten Bodewes
2 days ago
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@MaartenBodewes at least in the US, an employer would be well within their rights to have a policy of "you can't campaign for political office using company resources or within the office". Especially if there's a subordinate/supervisor relationship involved in the campaigning. Employees may fear retribution for refusing to support another employee's candidacy, and an employee who got fired for not supporting a political campaign not related to the company's business would likely have a case for wrongful termination.
– alroc
2 days ago
@MaartenBodewes at least in the US, an employer would be well within their rights to have a policy of "you can't campaign for political office using company resources or within the office". Especially if there's a subordinate/supervisor relationship involved in the campaigning. Employees may fear retribution for refusing to support another employee's candidacy, and an employee who got fired for not supporting a political campaign not related to the company's business would likely have a case for wrongful termination.
– alroc
2 days ago
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And in this case it sounds like the candidate is already known to be a bully, so all the more reason to protect people from his interference
– George M
yesterday
And in this case it sounds like the candidate is already known to be a bully, so all the more reason to protect people from his interference
– George M
yesterday
@MaartenBodewes: If the workplace is governmental or does alot of work for a government, it will almost certainly be required to prevent corruption.
– K.A
yesterday
@MaartenBodewes: If the workplace is governmental or does alot of work for a government, it will almost certainly be required to prevent corruption.
– K.A
yesterday
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You say
Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party.
But these are not mutually exclusive things. You could sign his petition and vote for the opposing party anyway right?
Signing his petition is helping this guy get elected. I'd guess that the OP really meant he doesn't want to help this guy get elected, (as opposed to only caring about voting in the election) so signing the petition would be directly opposed to his goals.
– Patrick M
yesterday
In some places you have to be the same party as the person who's petition your signing or it doesn't count. For instance, a Republican running may need to get 1000 registered republican signatures from their town to be listed on the ballot. If you are not of the same party, your signature may not count anyway. If this is the case, you could say, I don't believe my signature would count, but good luck anyway
– alpha1
23 hours ago
@PatrickM : sign the petition, then put up a yard sign for his opponent? (assuming he doesn't know exactly where you live) And make sure to tell all of your neighbors about what a terrible choice that other candidate would be, who you know because you work with him.
– Joe
11 hours ago
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You say
Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party.
But these are not mutually exclusive things. You could sign his petition and vote for the opposing party anyway right?
Signing his petition is helping this guy get elected. I'd guess that the OP really meant he doesn't want to help this guy get elected, (as opposed to only caring about voting in the election) so signing the petition would be directly opposed to his goals.
– Patrick M
yesterday
In some places you have to be the same party as the person who's petition your signing or it doesn't count. For instance, a Republican running may need to get 1000 registered republican signatures from their town to be listed on the ballot. If you are not of the same party, your signature may not count anyway. If this is the case, you could say, I don't believe my signature would count, but good luck anyway
– alpha1
23 hours ago
@PatrickM : sign the petition, then put up a yard sign for his opponent? (assuming he doesn't know exactly where you live) And make sure to tell all of your neighbors about what a terrible choice that other candidate would be, who you know because you work with him.
– Joe
11 hours ago
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You say
Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party.
But these are not mutually exclusive things. You could sign his petition and vote for the opposing party anyway right?
You say
Personally we don't share the same political views and I'll most likely vote for his opposing party.
But these are not mutually exclusive things. You could sign his petition and vote for the opposing party anyway right?
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Signing his petition is helping this guy get elected. I'd guess that the OP really meant he doesn't want to help this guy get elected, (as opposed to only caring about voting in the election) so signing the petition would be directly opposed to his goals.
– Patrick M
yesterday
In some places you have to be the same party as the person who's petition your signing or it doesn't count. For instance, a Republican running may need to get 1000 registered republican signatures from their town to be listed on the ballot. If you are not of the same party, your signature may not count anyway. If this is the case, you could say, I don't believe my signature would count, but good luck anyway
– alpha1
23 hours ago
@PatrickM : sign the petition, then put up a yard sign for his opponent? (assuming he doesn't know exactly where you live) And make sure to tell all of your neighbors about what a terrible choice that other candidate would be, who you know because you work with him.
– Joe
11 hours ago
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Signing his petition is helping this guy get elected. I'd guess that the OP really meant he doesn't want to help this guy get elected, (as opposed to only caring about voting in the election) so signing the petition would be directly opposed to his goals.
– Patrick M
yesterday
In some places you have to be the same party as the person who's petition your signing or it doesn't count. For instance, a Republican running may need to get 1000 registered republican signatures from their town to be listed on the ballot. If you are not of the same party, your signature may not count anyway. If this is the case, you could say, I don't believe my signature would count, but good luck anyway
– alpha1
23 hours ago
@PatrickM : sign the petition, then put up a yard sign for his opponent? (assuming he doesn't know exactly where you live) And make sure to tell all of your neighbors about what a terrible choice that other candidate would be, who you know because you work with him.
– Joe
11 hours ago
Signing his petition is helping this guy get elected. I'd guess that the OP really meant he doesn't want to help this guy get elected, (as opposed to only caring about voting in the election) so signing the petition would be directly opposed to his goals.
– Patrick M
yesterday
Signing his petition is helping this guy get elected. I'd guess that the OP really meant he doesn't want to help this guy get elected, (as opposed to only caring about voting in the election) so signing the petition would be directly opposed to his goals.
– Patrick M
yesterday
In some places you have to be the same party as the person who's petition your signing or it doesn't count. For instance, a Republican running may need to get 1000 registered republican signatures from their town to be listed on the ballot. If you are not of the same party, your signature may not count anyway. If this is the case, you could say, I don't believe my signature would count, but good luck anyway
– alpha1
23 hours ago
In some places you have to be the same party as the person who's petition your signing or it doesn't count. For instance, a Republican running may need to get 1000 registered republican signatures from their town to be listed on the ballot. If you are not of the same party, your signature may not count anyway. If this is the case, you could say, I don't believe my signature would count, but good luck anyway
– alpha1
23 hours ago
@PatrickM : sign the petition, then put up a yard sign for his opponent? (assuming he doesn't know exactly where you live) And make sure to tell all of your neighbors about what a terrible choice that other candidate would be, who you know because you work with him.
– Joe
11 hours ago
@PatrickM : sign the petition, then put up a yard sign for his opponent? (assuming he doesn't know exactly where you live) And make sure to tell all of your neighbors about what a terrible choice that other candidate would be, who you know because you work with him.
– Joe
11 hours ago
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It depends on the district whether signing the candidate's petition is an endorsement of their candidacy (a nomination) or just their eligibility. I'm a member of my local school board, and my petition requires three nominators and ten “signatories.” The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot" and the latter say "I certify that the candidate is legally eligible to hold the office they're running for."
If you think the person is a decent human being, and deserves a shot to put their name before the voters, then I don't see any ideological dilemma between certifying their eligibility and then voting against them. A rational, independent voter would be able to say in one month, “Yes, he's capable of the job and deserves to be considered,” and then later, “But I prefer somebody else.” If he is asking you to nominate him, though, then you probably shouldn't.
If you're going to say no, just say no. “I'd rather not mix work and politics, if that's OK with you.” [Not that it matters whether it's OK with him.] The guy should be able to take a hint. After all, if he's going to run, he'd better have more friends in the community than you to ask to sign his petition.
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Your "no" needs to be assertive. "I'd rather not" and "if that's OK with you" leaves room for the person asking to press more. A simple "No, I don't mix work relationships and politics" is all that's needed.
– alroc
2 days ago
@alroc: I agree, you need to be assertive. I think there's a way to do that without being blunt and making the conversation more awkward then necessary. After all, you need to keep working congenially with the person. Your face and tone of voice can show your true intent while your choice of words softens the blow.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
"The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot"" So the nominations endorse the candidate and the endorsements certify eligibility?
– Acccumulation
yesterday
@Acccumulation: you're right, I'm using endorse formally and informally in the same paragraph. I'll revise.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
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It depends on the district whether signing the candidate's petition is an endorsement of their candidacy (a nomination) or just their eligibility. I'm a member of my local school board, and my petition requires three nominators and ten “signatories.” The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot" and the latter say "I certify that the candidate is legally eligible to hold the office they're running for."
If you think the person is a decent human being, and deserves a shot to put their name before the voters, then I don't see any ideological dilemma between certifying their eligibility and then voting against them. A rational, independent voter would be able to say in one month, “Yes, he's capable of the job and deserves to be considered,” and then later, “But I prefer somebody else.” If he is asking you to nominate him, though, then you probably shouldn't.
If you're going to say no, just say no. “I'd rather not mix work and politics, if that's OK with you.” [Not that it matters whether it's OK with him.] The guy should be able to take a hint. After all, if he's going to run, he'd better have more friends in the community than you to ask to sign his petition.
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Your "no" needs to be assertive. "I'd rather not" and "if that's OK with you" leaves room for the person asking to press more. A simple "No, I don't mix work relationships and politics" is all that's needed.
– alroc
2 days ago
@alroc: I agree, you need to be assertive. I think there's a way to do that without being blunt and making the conversation more awkward then necessary. After all, you need to keep working congenially with the person. Your face and tone of voice can show your true intent while your choice of words softens the blow.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
"The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot"" So the nominations endorse the candidate and the endorsements certify eligibility?
– Acccumulation
yesterday
@Acccumulation: you're right, I'm using endorse formally and informally in the same paragraph. I'll revise.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
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It depends on the district whether signing the candidate's petition is an endorsement of their candidacy (a nomination) or just their eligibility. I'm a member of my local school board, and my petition requires three nominators and ten “signatories.” The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot" and the latter say "I certify that the candidate is legally eligible to hold the office they're running for."
If you think the person is a decent human being, and deserves a shot to put their name before the voters, then I don't see any ideological dilemma between certifying their eligibility and then voting against them. A rational, independent voter would be able to say in one month, “Yes, he's capable of the job and deserves to be considered,” and then later, “But I prefer somebody else.” If he is asking you to nominate him, though, then you probably shouldn't.
If you're going to say no, just say no. “I'd rather not mix work and politics, if that's OK with you.” [Not that it matters whether it's OK with him.] The guy should be able to take a hint. After all, if he's going to run, he'd better have more friends in the community than you to ask to sign his petition.
It depends on the district whether signing the candidate's petition is an endorsement of their candidacy (a nomination) or just their eligibility. I'm a member of my local school board, and my petition requires three nominators and ten “signatories.” The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot" and the latter say "I certify that the candidate is legally eligible to hold the office they're running for."
If you think the person is a decent human being, and deserves a shot to put their name before the voters, then I don't see any ideological dilemma between certifying their eligibility and then voting against them. A rational, independent voter would be able to say in one month, “Yes, he's capable of the job and deserves to be considered,” and then later, “But I prefer somebody else.” If he is asking you to nominate him, though, then you probably shouldn't.
If you're going to say no, just say no. “I'd rather not mix work and politics, if that's OK with you.” [Not that it matters whether it's OK with him.] The guy should be able to take a hint. After all, if he's going to run, he'd better have more friends in the community than you to ask to sign his petition.
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Your "no" needs to be assertive. "I'd rather not" and "if that's OK with you" leaves room for the person asking to press more. A simple "No, I don't mix work relationships and politics" is all that's needed.
– alroc
2 days ago
@alroc: I agree, you need to be assertive. I think there's a way to do that without being blunt and making the conversation more awkward then necessary. After all, you need to keep working congenially with the person. Your face and tone of voice can show your true intent while your choice of words softens the blow.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
"The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot"" So the nominations endorse the candidate and the endorsements certify eligibility?
– Acccumulation
yesterday
@Acccumulation: you're right, I'm using endorse formally and informally in the same paragraph. I'll revise.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
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Your "no" needs to be assertive. "I'd rather not" and "if that's OK with you" leaves room for the person asking to press more. A simple "No, I don't mix work relationships and politics" is all that's needed.
– alroc
2 days ago
@alroc: I agree, you need to be assertive. I think there's a way to do that without being blunt and making the conversation more awkward then necessary. After all, you need to keep working congenially with the person. Your face and tone of voice can show your true intent while your choice of words softens the blow.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
"The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot"" So the nominations endorse the candidate and the endorsements certify eligibility?
– Acccumulation
yesterday
@Acccumulation: you're right, I'm using endorse formally and informally in the same paragraph. I'll revise.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
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Your "no" needs to be assertive. "I'd rather not" and "if that's OK with you" leaves room for the person asking to press more. A simple "No, I don't mix work relationships and politics" is all that's needed.
– alroc
2 days ago
Your "no" needs to be assertive. "I'd rather not" and "if that's OK with you" leaves room for the person asking to press more. A simple "No, I don't mix work relationships and politics" is all that's needed.
– alroc
2 days ago
@alroc: I agree, you need to be assertive. I think there's a way to do that without being blunt and making the conversation more awkward then necessary. After all, you need to keep working congenially with the person. Your face and tone of voice can show your true intent while your choice of words softens the blow.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
@alroc: I agree, you need to be assertive. I think there's a way to do that without being blunt and making the conversation more awkward then necessary. After all, you need to keep working congenially with the person. Your face and tone of voice can show your true intent while your choice of words softens the blow.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
"The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot"" So the nominations endorse the candidate and the endorsements certify eligibility?
– Acccumulation
yesterday
"The former say (paraphrasing) "I endorse this candidate and request that their name be on the ballot"" So the nominations endorse the candidate and the endorsements certify eligibility?
– Acccumulation
yesterday
@Acccumulation: you're right, I'm using endorse formally and informally in the same paragraph. I'll revise.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
@Acccumulation: you're right, I'm using endorse formally and informally in the same paragraph. I'll revise.
– Matthew Leingang
yesterday
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I will have to contradict the other answers.
A petition does not indicate support of the candidate. It indicates your support that the candidate ought to be on the ballot. Those are two very different things. (I'm assuming that this is a ballot access petition.)
Taking this position removes all concerns from the equation. You are not supporting this individual's positions. You are supporting open expression and having a wider range of voices to be placed on the ballot - that being the case you are not involving yourself in politics except to the extent that you declare yourself in favor of a vibrant election process.
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If he wins, then I'd feel like an idiot for having helped him to his goal. Yeah, no, I would have to go with the others who say don't sign!
– Blisterpeanuts
21 hours ago
@Blisterpeanuts - I'm a free-market libertarian and have often signed petitions for the Green and Democratic Socialist parties. If your coworker had a real shot of winning he would have a staff that collect signatures. But, if that concerns you then you are correct and don't sign.
– Mayo
21 hours ago
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I will have to contradict the other answers.
A petition does not indicate support of the candidate. It indicates your support that the candidate ought to be on the ballot. Those are two very different things. (I'm assuming that this is a ballot access petition.)
Taking this position removes all concerns from the equation. You are not supporting this individual's positions. You are supporting open expression and having a wider range of voices to be placed on the ballot - that being the case you are not involving yourself in politics except to the extent that you declare yourself in favor of a vibrant election process.
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If he wins, then I'd feel like an idiot for having helped him to his goal. Yeah, no, I would have to go with the others who say don't sign!
– Blisterpeanuts
21 hours ago
@Blisterpeanuts - I'm a free-market libertarian and have often signed petitions for the Green and Democratic Socialist parties. If your coworker had a real shot of winning he would have a staff that collect signatures. But, if that concerns you then you are correct and don't sign.
– Mayo
21 hours ago
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I will have to contradict the other answers.
A petition does not indicate support of the candidate. It indicates your support that the candidate ought to be on the ballot. Those are two very different things. (I'm assuming that this is a ballot access petition.)
Taking this position removes all concerns from the equation. You are not supporting this individual's positions. You are supporting open expression and having a wider range of voices to be placed on the ballot - that being the case you are not involving yourself in politics except to the extent that you declare yourself in favor of a vibrant election process.
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I will have to contradict the other answers.
A petition does not indicate support of the candidate. It indicates your support that the candidate ought to be on the ballot. Those are two very different things. (I'm assuming that this is a ballot access petition.)
Taking this position removes all concerns from the equation. You are not supporting this individual's positions. You are supporting open expression and having a wider range of voices to be placed on the ballot - that being the case you are not involving yourself in politics except to the extent that you declare yourself in favor of a vibrant election process.
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If he wins, then I'd feel like an idiot for having helped him to his goal. Yeah, no, I would have to go with the others who say don't sign!
– Blisterpeanuts
21 hours ago
@Blisterpeanuts - I'm a free-market libertarian and have often signed petitions for the Green and Democratic Socialist parties. If your coworker had a real shot of winning he would have a staff that collect signatures. But, if that concerns you then you are correct and don't sign.
– Mayo
21 hours ago
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If he wins, then I'd feel like an idiot for having helped him to his goal. Yeah, no, I would have to go with the others who say don't sign!
– Blisterpeanuts
21 hours ago
@Blisterpeanuts - I'm a free-market libertarian and have often signed petitions for the Green and Democratic Socialist parties. If your coworker had a real shot of winning he would have a staff that collect signatures. But, if that concerns you then you are correct and don't sign.
– Mayo
21 hours ago
If he wins, then I'd feel like an idiot for having helped him to his goal. Yeah, no, I would have to go with the others who say don't sign!
– Blisterpeanuts
21 hours ago
If he wins, then I'd feel like an idiot for having helped him to his goal. Yeah, no, I would have to go with the others who say don't sign!
– Blisterpeanuts
21 hours ago
@Blisterpeanuts - I'm a free-market libertarian and have often signed petitions for the Green and Democratic Socialist parties. If your coworker had a real shot of winning he would have a staff that collect signatures. But, if that concerns you then you are correct and don't sign.
– Mayo
21 hours ago
@Blisterpeanuts - I'm a free-market libertarian and have often signed petitions for the Green and Democratic Socialist parties. If your coworker had a real shot of winning he would have a staff that collect signatures. But, if that concerns you then you are correct and don't sign.
– Mayo
21 hours ago
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'I'm in a bit of a quandry here. On a personal level, I'm sure you'd be an excellent candidate. But I actually support the other lot! Would you let me off?'
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Do not recommend if the person is aggressive about their political views.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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this is the most adorably British thing I've read
– Bryan Boettcher
yesterday
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'I'm in a bit of a quandry here. On a personal level, I'm sure you'd be an excellent candidate. But I actually support the other lot! Would you let me off?'
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Do not recommend if the person is aggressive about their political views.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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this is the most adorably British thing I've read
– Bryan Boettcher
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'I'm in a bit of a quandry here. On a personal level, I'm sure you'd be an excellent candidate. But I actually support the other lot! Would you let me off?'
'I'm in a bit of a quandry here. On a personal level, I'm sure you'd be an excellent candidate. But I actually support the other lot! Would you let me off?'
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Do not recommend if the person is aggressive about their political views.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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this is the most adorably British thing I've read
– Bryan Boettcher
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Do not recommend if the person is aggressive about their political views.
– jpmc26
2 days ago
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this is the most adorably British thing I've read
– Bryan Boettcher
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Do not recommend if the person is aggressive about their political views.
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Do not recommend if the person is aggressive about their political views.
– jpmc26
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this is the most adorably British thing I've read
– Bryan Boettcher
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this is the most adorably British thing I've read
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Go to your management and let them know. Your co-worker is using company time and resources to promote himself to a political office which is almost definitely against their policy, or at least is improper workplace behavior if not outright harassment. You may phrase it diplomatically:
My coworker has repeatedly asked me to sign a petition to promote his political campaign. I am uncomfortable with people pressing their politics on me in the office. I don't wish to turn this into a major incident, but perhaps my coworker's management could let him know that his actions are not universally appreciated and might be against company policy.
Probably nothing will be done right away, but your complaint will at least be noted, and if your coworker retaliates against you for refusing to sign his petition, you will have put in place a basis for him to be fired. "Remember when I came to you last month? Just as I feared, he became enraged when I did not sign his petition and has been saying nasty things about me in the lunch room."
It's unfortunate that some people are too self-centered and narcissistic to realize the impact of their actions on others. It's doubly unfortunate that you have to work with this person. Your first loyalty is to yourself and the security of your job and livelihood, so take appropriate preventative measures now and not become a victim of his bullying later on.
I have seen this kind of behavior many times in my career and rarely do people respond well to moral persuasion in the workplace. Usually, it is only the threat to their direct self-interest, e.g. their job, that convinces them to back off. However, usually employers don't have the patience to be forgiving, unless he's some kind of super-star employee whom they can't afford to fire, and those are very very rare!
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Depending on the workplace (and the politics), I wouldn't be surprised if action get taken quicker than you think - it's not really in management's interest to have an employee running his campaign on company time.
– Allen Gould
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
Typically when running for a public office, it's best to get approval from HR so they know you're doing it. If he didn't, then he might have issues. As I was on a government contract that kept getting passed off between companies (getting bought out, recompete won by another company, that one getting bought out, then trying to sell themselves), I had to deal with it multiple times. There were always strict rules about keeping my two jobs separate, and only caused problems w/ the one trying to sell themselves (and trying to get me to sign a badly worded non-compete)
– Joe
12 hours ago
@LassiKinnunen : you'd be surprised. Companies of a certain size like knowing that there are people in public office who might take their side on things. (which would be a conflict of interest, and the official should recuse themselves on ... but they still like it). Some also look it as a form of community service, depending on the type of elected position.
– Joe
12 hours ago
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Go to your management and let them know. Your co-worker is using company time and resources to promote himself to a political office which is almost definitely against their policy, or at least is improper workplace behavior if not outright harassment. You may phrase it diplomatically:
My coworker has repeatedly asked me to sign a petition to promote his political campaign. I am uncomfortable with people pressing their politics on me in the office. I don't wish to turn this into a major incident, but perhaps my coworker's management could let him know that his actions are not universally appreciated and might be against company policy.
Probably nothing will be done right away, but your complaint will at least be noted, and if your coworker retaliates against you for refusing to sign his petition, you will have put in place a basis for him to be fired. "Remember when I came to you last month? Just as I feared, he became enraged when I did not sign his petition and has been saying nasty things about me in the lunch room."
It's unfortunate that some people are too self-centered and narcissistic to realize the impact of their actions on others. It's doubly unfortunate that you have to work with this person. Your first loyalty is to yourself and the security of your job and livelihood, so take appropriate preventative measures now and not become a victim of his bullying later on.
I have seen this kind of behavior many times in my career and rarely do people respond well to moral persuasion in the workplace. Usually, it is only the threat to their direct self-interest, e.g. their job, that convinces them to back off. However, usually employers don't have the patience to be forgiving, unless he's some kind of super-star employee whom they can't afford to fire, and those are very very rare!
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Depending on the workplace (and the politics), I wouldn't be surprised if action get taken quicker than you think - it's not really in management's interest to have an employee running his campaign on company time.
– Allen Gould
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
Typically when running for a public office, it's best to get approval from HR so they know you're doing it. If he didn't, then he might have issues. As I was on a government contract that kept getting passed off between companies (getting bought out, recompete won by another company, that one getting bought out, then trying to sell themselves), I had to deal with it multiple times. There were always strict rules about keeping my two jobs separate, and only caused problems w/ the one trying to sell themselves (and trying to get me to sign a badly worded non-compete)
– Joe
12 hours ago
@LassiKinnunen : you'd be surprised. Companies of a certain size like knowing that there are people in public office who might take their side on things. (which would be a conflict of interest, and the official should recuse themselves on ... but they still like it). Some also look it as a form of community service, depending on the type of elected position.
– Joe
12 hours ago
add a comment |
Go to your management and let them know. Your co-worker is using company time and resources to promote himself to a political office which is almost definitely against their policy, or at least is improper workplace behavior if not outright harassment. You may phrase it diplomatically:
My coworker has repeatedly asked me to sign a petition to promote his political campaign. I am uncomfortable with people pressing their politics on me in the office. I don't wish to turn this into a major incident, but perhaps my coworker's management could let him know that his actions are not universally appreciated and might be against company policy.
Probably nothing will be done right away, but your complaint will at least be noted, and if your coworker retaliates against you for refusing to sign his petition, you will have put in place a basis for him to be fired. "Remember when I came to you last month? Just as I feared, he became enraged when I did not sign his petition and has been saying nasty things about me in the lunch room."
It's unfortunate that some people are too self-centered and narcissistic to realize the impact of their actions on others. It's doubly unfortunate that you have to work with this person. Your first loyalty is to yourself and the security of your job and livelihood, so take appropriate preventative measures now and not become a victim of his bullying later on.
I have seen this kind of behavior many times in my career and rarely do people respond well to moral persuasion in the workplace. Usually, it is only the threat to their direct self-interest, e.g. their job, that convinces them to back off. However, usually employers don't have the patience to be forgiving, unless he's some kind of super-star employee whom they can't afford to fire, and those are very very rare!
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Go to your management and let them know. Your co-worker is using company time and resources to promote himself to a political office which is almost definitely against their policy, or at least is improper workplace behavior if not outright harassment. You may phrase it diplomatically:
My coworker has repeatedly asked me to sign a petition to promote his political campaign. I am uncomfortable with people pressing their politics on me in the office. I don't wish to turn this into a major incident, but perhaps my coworker's management could let him know that his actions are not universally appreciated and might be against company policy.
Probably nothing will be done right away, but your complaint will at least be noted, and if your coworker retaliates against you for refusing to sign his petition, you will have put in place a basis for him to be fired. "Remember when I came to you last month? Just as I feared, he became enraged when I did not sign his petition and has been saying nasty things about me in the lunch room."
It's unfortunate that some people are too self-centered and narcissistic to realize the impact of their actions on others. It's doubly unfortunate that you have to work with this person. Your first loyalty is to yourself and the security of your job and livelihood, so take appropriate preventative measures now and not become a victim of his bullying later on.
I have seen this kind of behavior many times in my career and rarely do people respond well to moral persuasion in the workplace. Usually, it is only the threat to their direct self-interest, e.g. their job, that convinces them to back off. However, usually employers don't have the patience to be forgiving, unless he's some kind of super-star employee whom they can't afford to fire, and those are very very rare!
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Depending on the workplace (and the politics), I wouldn't be surprised if action get taken quicker than you think - it's not really in management's interest to have an employee running his campaign on company time.
– Allen Gould
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
Typically when running for a public office, it's best to get approval from HR so they know you're doing it. If he didn't, then he might have issues. As I was on a government contract that kept getting passed off between companies (getting bought out, recompete won by another company, that one getting bought out, then trying to sell themselves), I had to deal with it multiple times. There were always strict rules about keeping my two jobs separate, and only caused problems w/ the one trying to sell themselves (and trying to get me to sign a badly worded non-compete)
– Joe
12 hours ago
@LassiKinnunen : you'd be surprised. Companies of a certain size like knowing that there are people in public office who might take their side on things. (which would be a conflict of interest, and the official should recuse themselves on ... but they still like it). Some also look it as a form of community service, depending on the type of elected position.
– Joe
12 hours ago
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Depending on the workplace (and the politics), I wouldn't be surprised if action get taken quicker than you think - it's not really in management's interest to have an employee running his campaign on company time.
– Allen Gould
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
Typically when running for a public office, it's best to get approval from HR so they know you're doing it. If he didn't, then he might have issues. As I was on a government contract that kept getting passed off between companies (getting bought out, recompete won by another company, that one getting bought out, then trying to sell themselves), I had to deal with it multiple times. There were always strict rules about keeping my two jobs separate, and only caused problems w/ the one trying to sell themselves (and trying to get me to sign a badly worded non-compete)
– Joe
12 hours ago
@LassiKinnunen : you'd be surprised. Companies of a certain size like knowing that there are people in public office who might take their side on things. (which would be a conflict of interest, and the official should recuse themselves on ... but they still like it). Some also look it as a form of community service, depending on the type of elected position.
– Joe
12 hours ago
1
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Depending on the workplace (and the politics), I wouldn't be surprised if action get taken quicker than you think - it's not really in management's interest to have an employee running his campaign on company time.
– Allen Gould
yesterday
Depending on the workplace (and the politics), I wouldn't be surprised if action get taken quicker than you think - it's not really in management's interest to have an employee running his campaign on company time.
– Allen Gould
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
If they can't afford to fire him, they wouldn't like him running for office eiher. If it's just a petition to be eligible to be a candidate and has nothing beyond that, I might just sign it since it does nothing. But I would also mention that if he needs to ask for the signatures in office then he probably has no chance of getting elected. It's a lot easier to get the required signatures to run for something than it is to actually get any votes in any democracy. That's just how it is, as you can sign for multiples but can only vote for one.
– Lassi Kinnunen
yesterday
Typically when running for a public office, it's best to get approval from HR so they know you're doing it. If he didn't, then he might have issues. As I was on a government contract that kept getting passed off between companies (getting bought out, recompete won by another company, that one getting bought out, then trying to sell themselves), I had to deal with it multiple times. There were always strict rules about keeping my two jobs separate, and only caused problems w/ the one trying to sell themselves (and trying to get me to sign a badly worded non-compete)
– Joe
12 hours ago
Typically when running for a public office, it's best to get approval from HR so they know you're doing it. If he didn't, then he might have issues. As I was on a government contract that kept getting passed off between companies (getting bought out, recompete won by another company, that one getting bought out, then trying to sell themselves), I had to deal with it multiple times. There were always strict rules about keeping my two jobs separate, and only caused problems w/ the one trying to sell themselves (and trying to get me to sign a badly worded non-compete)
– Joe
12 hours ago
@LassiKinnunen : you'd be surprised. Companies of a certain size like knowing that there are people in public office who might take their side on things. (which would be a conflict of interest, and the official should recuse themselves on ... but they still like it). Some also look it as a form of community service, depending on the type of elected position.
– Joe
12 hours ago
@LassiKinnunen : you'd be surprised. Companies of a certain size like knowing that there are people in public office who might take their side on things. (which would be a conflict of interest, and the official should recuse themselves on ... but they still like it). Some also look it as a form of community service, depending on the type of elected position.
– Joe
12 hours ago
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Don't view it as humiliating or something to have to avoid. It's as simple as:
Thanks, coworker, but I'm not interested. I really wish you the best in your political affairs.
There is nothing to be ashamed of. There is nothing to gossip about. Political views don't need to be taboo. Just don't over-emphasize the fact that you don't agree with his political stance. It's always as simple as,
I'm not interested, but thank you for considering me.
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Don't view it as humiliating or something to have to avoid. It's as simple as:
Thanks, coworker, but I'm not interested. I really wish you the best in your political affairs.
There is nothing to be ashamed of. There is nothing to gossip about. Political views don't need to be taboo. Just don't over-emphasize the fact that you don't agree with his political stance. It's always as simple as,
I'm not interested, but thank you for considering me.
add a comment |
Don't view it as humiliating or something to have to avoid. It's as simple as:
Thanks, coworker, but I'm not interested. I really wish you the best in your political affairs.
There is nothing to be ashamed of. There is nothing to gossip about. Political views don't need to be taboo. Just don't over-emphasize the fact that you don't agree with his political stance. It's always as simple as,
I'm not interested, but thank you for considering me.
Don't view it as humiliating or something to have to avoid. It's as simple as:
Thanks, coworker, but I'm not interested. I really wish you the best in your political affairs.
There is nothing to be ashamed of. There is nothing to gossip about. Political views don't need to be taboo. Just don't over-emphasize the fact that you don't agree with his political stance. It's always as simple as,
I'm not interested, but thank you for considering me.
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This is not about you, it is about him. Assuming that signing does not constitute making an endorsement or require that you join his party or anything, then refusing to sign it when you know he meets the residency requirements is really just a selfish way of making his project about you.
Keep it about him and stay classy by signing his papers. It might even help motivate you to go out and vote when the time comes - for his opponent of course.
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This is not about you, it is about him. Assuming that signing does not constitute making an endorsement or require that you join his party or anything, then refusing to sign it when you know he meets the residency requirements is really just a selfish way of making his project about you.
Keep it about him and stay classy by signing his papers. It might even help motivate you to go out and vote when the time comes - for his opponent of course.
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This is not about you, it is about him. Assuming that signing does not constitute making an endorsement or require that you join his party or anything, then refusing to sign it when you know he meets the residency requirements is really just a selfish way of making his project about you.
Keep it about him and stay classy by signing his papers. It might even help motivate you to go out and vote when the time comes - for his opponent of course.
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This is not about you, it is about him. Assuming that signing does not constitute making an endorsement or require that you join his party or anything, then refusing to sign it when you know he meets the residency requirements is really just a selfish way of making his project about you.
Keep it about him and stay classy by signing his papers. It might even help motivate you to go out and vote when the time comes - for his opponent of course.
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If you really need an answer that will get you out of it- tell him you're not registered to vote. People who aren't registered don't count for signatures, so yours would hurt him instead of help.
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Unless OP is registered to vote. Lying is not a good solution.
– Seth R
17 hours ago
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@SethR Lying is a perfectly good solution when its none of their business to begin with. You have no obligation to be truthful to people if your intent isn't to defraud.
– Gabe Sechan
17 hours ago
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If you really need an answer that will get you out of it- tell him you're not registered to vote. People who aren't registered don't count for signatures, so yours would hurt him instead of help.
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Unless OP is registered to vote. Lying is not a good solution.
– Seth R
17 hours ago
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@SethR Lying is a perfectly good solution when its none of their business to begin with. You have no obligation to be truthful to people if your intent isn't to defraud.
– Gabe Sechan
17 hours ago
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If you really need an answer that will get you out of it- tell him you're not registered to vote. People who aren't registered don't count for signatures, so yours would hurt him instead of help.
If you really need an answer that will get you out of it- tell him you're not registered to vote. People who aren't registered don't count for signatures, so yours would hurt him instead of help.
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Gabe SechanGabe Sechan
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Unless OP is registered to vote. Lying is not a good solution.
– Seth R
17 hours ago
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@SethR Lying is a perfectly good solution when its none of their business to begin with. You have no obligation to be truthful to people if your intent isn't to defraud.
– Gabe Sechan
17 hours ago
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Unless OP is registered to vote. Lying is not a good solution.
– Seth R
17 hours ago
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@SethR Lying is a perfectly good solution when its none of their business to begin with. You have no obligation to be truthful to people if your intent isn't to defraud.
– Gabe Sechan
17 hours ago
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Unless OP is registered to vote. Lying is not a good solution.
– Seth R
17 hours ago
Unless OP is registered to vote. Lying is not a good solution.
– Seth R
17 hours ago
1
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@SethR Lying is a perfectly good solution when its none of their business to begin with. You have no obligation to be truthful to people if your intent isn't to defraud.
– Gabe Sechan
17 hours ago
@SethR Lying is a perfectly good solution when its none of their business to begin with. You have no obligation to be truthful to people if your intent isn't to defraud.
– Gabe Sechan
17 hours ago
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The whole thing isn't about signing. It's about how to fight someone who is trying to coerce you with fear to doing something they want, without triggering them off.
If you know your boss would be against this, mention it to him or somehow troll him to ask you for the signature while in his presence. The point is to just CYA for after when he realizes that you don't want to sign for him and are therefore marked as an enemy by a toxic person. This is solely for that your boss has some chance to realize why he would have started badmouthing you suddenly.
You could also just sign it, you can still mention it to your boss that he is going around asking for signatures. It is very unlikely to make any difference and it's fairly unlikely anyone is going to go through the signatures to single you out for your political preference. The reason I say it's very unlikely to make any difference is that if he is struggling to get enough signatures he is very unlikely to get enough votes in the actual election, making it all just a huge waste of time.
The question boils down to how to decline an aggressive persuasion without angering the person - when his persuasion tactic is basically that if you don't agree he will get angry. He will use things like arguing that you lose nothing by signing it. As you've already gone the play time route you have kind of lost the golden chance of using deflection, making a decline and telling him what he should be doing instead: going to the mall, city square or whatever it is where the elderly hang out to ask for signatures from the elderly. Because that's how you get signatures. not by harassing your coworkers.
The whole point of the deflection would be to make them feel like you helped them despite declining on the thing they were asking you to do. That explicit advice would help their chances though so it has that downside.
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The whole thing isn't about signing. It's about how to fight someone who is trying to coerce you with fear to doing something they want, without triggering them off.
If you know your boss would be against this, mention it to him or somehow troll him to ask you for the signature while in his presence. The point is to just CYA for after when he realizes that you don't want to sign for him and are therefore marked as an enemy by a toxic person. This is solely for that your boss has some chance to realize why he would have started badmouthing you suddenly.
You could also just sign it, you can still mention it to your boss that he is going around asking for signatures. It is very unlikely to make any difference and it's fairly unlikely anyone is going to go through the signatures to single you out for your political preference. The reason I say it's very unlikely to make any difference is that if he is struggling to get enough signatures he is very unlikely to get enough votes in the actual election, making it all just a huge waste of time.
The question boils down to how to decline an aggressive persuasion without angering the person - when his persuasion tactic is basically that if you don't agree he will get angry. He will use things like arguing that you lose nothing by signing it. As you've already gone the play time route you have kind of lost the golden chance of using deflection, making a decline and telling him what he should be doing instead: going to the mall, city square or whatever it is where the elderly hang out to ask for signatures from the elderly. Because that's how you get signatures. not by harassing your coworkers.
The whole point of the deflection would be to make them feel like you helped them despite declining on the thing they were asking you to do. That explicit advice would help their chances though so it has that downside.
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The whole thing isn't about signing. It's about how to fight someone who is trying to coerce you with fear to doing something they want, without triggering them off.
If you know your boss would be against this, mention it to him or somehow troll him to ask you for the signature while in his presence. The point is to just CYA for after when he realizes that you don't want to sign for him and are therefore marked as an enemy by a toxic person. This is solely for that your boss has some chance to realize why he would have started badmouthing you suddenly.
You could also just sign it, you can still mention it to your boss that he is going around asking for signatures. It is very unlikely to make any difference and it's fairly unlikely anyone is going to go through the signatures to single you out for your political preference. The reason I say it's very unlikely to make any difference is that if he is struggling to get enough signatures he is very unlikely to get enough votes in the actual election, making it all just a huge waste of time.
The question boils down to how to decline an aggressive persuasion without angering the person - when his persuasion tactic is basically that if you don't agree he will get angry. He will use things like arguing that you lose nothing by signing it. As you've already gone the play time route you have kind of lost the golden chance of using deflection, making a decline and telling him what he should be doing instead: going to the mall, city square or whatever it is where the elderly hang out to ask for signatures from the elderly. Because that's how you get signatures. not by harassing your coworkers.
The whole point of the deflection would be to make them feel like you helped them despite declining on the thing they were asking you to do. That explicit advice would help their chances though so it has that downside.
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The whole thing isn't about signing. It's about how to fight someone who is trying to coerce you with fear to doing something they want, without triggering them off.
If you know your boss would be against this, mention it to him or somehow troll him to ask you for the signature while in his presence. The point is to just CYA for after when he realizes that you don't want to sign for him and are therefore marked as an enemy by a toxic person. This is solely for that your boss has some chance to realize why he would have started badmouthing you suddenly.
You could also just sign it, you can still mention it to your boss that he is going around asking for signatures. It is very unlikely to make any difference and it's fairly unlikely anyone is going to go through the signatures to single you out for your political preference. The reason I say it's very unlikely to make any difference is that if he is struggling to get enough signatures he is very unlikely to get enough votes in the actual election, making it all just a huge waste of time.
The question boils down to how to decline an aggressive persuasion without angering the person - when his persuasion tactic is basically that if you don't agree he will get angry. He will use things like arguing that you lose nothing by signing it. As you've already gone the play time route you have kind of lost the golden chance of using deflection, making a decline and telling him what he should be doing instead: going to the mall, city square or whatever it is where the elderly hang out to ask for signatures from the elderly. Because that's how you get signatures. not by harassing your coworkers.
The whole point of the deflection would be to make them feel like you helped them despite declining on the thing they were asking you to do. That explicit advice would help their chances though so it has that downside.
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Tell him that you are sorry, but that you do not get involved in politics at work, and that doesn't like political, sales or religious solicitation on the job.
That's all you need to say without being impolite. If he doesn't get it and continues with his soliciting, then he's the impolite one.
It's ok to worry about being polite, but worry more about your well being. Do you want to be seen as being part of political solicitation at work?
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Tell him that you are sorry, but that you do not get involved in politics at work, and that doesn't like political, sales or religious solicitation on the job.
That's all you need to say without being impolite. If he doesn't get it and continues with his soliciting, then he's the impolite one.
It's ok to worry about being polite, but worry more about your well being. Do you want to be seen as being part of political solicitation at work?
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Tell him that you are sorry, but that you do not get involved in politics at work, and that doesn't like political, sales or religious solicitation on the job.
That's all you need to say without being impolite. If he doesn't get it and continues with his soliciting, then he's the impolite one.
It's ok to worry about being polite, but worry more about your well being. Do you want to be seen as being part of political solicitation at work?
Tell him that you are sorry, but that you do not get involved in politics at work, and that doesn't like political, sales or religious solicitation on the job.
That's all you need to say without being impolite. If he doesn't get it and continues with his soliciting, then he's the impolite one.
It's ok to worry about being polite, but worry more about your well being. Do you want to be seen as being part of political solicitation at work?
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Hey Dark Cygnus. It seems like you changed my post, why'd you do that? He's running for a local city council office, not a corporate position.
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Hey Pelican, I merely changed your tags as the politics tags was misused (as it's not for corporate or office politics), and introduced more useful tags with the goal of you getting more/better answers. I also made improvements to your title to make it more appealing. I left the whole body of your post intact. Feel free to edit your post further... seems you are new to SE (welcome btw :)... in this site, the Community (that is, all users) helps improve posts by suggesting edits to it, so expect to receive edits or suggestions whenever you ask or answer.
– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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– DarkCygnus
2 days ago
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Does your employee handbook have anything in it that would address this sort of behavior?
– alroc
2 days ago
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Where do you live? Do you happen to work for the government? Where I live it is illegal to do any sort of campaigning at work if you work for the government.
– David K
2 days ago